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View Poll Results: Faster pace?
Miami 16 14.16%
Atlanta 29 25.66%
Charlotte 7 6.19%
Dallas 14 12.39%
Houston 11 9.73%
Austin 13 11.50%
Nashville 19 16.81%
Raleigh 0 0%
New Orleans 4 3.54%
Voters: 113. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-11-2019, 02:56 PM
 
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Atelier on Flora will be 41 floors.

The Victor in Victory Park will be 39 or 40 floors.

There’s a Hillwood office bldg lot that’s fenced off for construction and supposed to be the tallest bldg in Uptown.
Good stuff, thanks. That's definitely going to be a good influx of energy into the CBD with even more new residential going into downtown and uptown.

The contrast between DFW and Atlanta/Houston here is that even though all three are currently building multiple 35-45 story residential highrises, DFW is the only one where those are all going into the CBD (of which I tend to count Uptown as a part). Atlanta is building 39- and 36-story residential highrises, but they are both in Buckhead, not downtown Atlanta. They are, however, also planning a 55-story residential tower in Midtown (which, like Uptown Dallas, I tend to treat as part of the CBD). And along with the aforementioned 46-story residential tower downtown, Houston is building a 38-story residential tower in River Oaks and a 36-story one in Montrose.

It's interesting because (generally speaking) DFW is seen as the more decentralized metro when compared with the other two, so there's some irony that the highest-intensity residential development seems to be more centralized there, at least right now. I think all three could support significantly more residential downtown, and high-rise living is going through an upswing in popularity right now, so it will be interesting to see if those trends hold, or if DFW starts seeing more residential highrise outside of the CBD/Uptown (or conversely, if Houston and Atlanta see more residential highrises within their respective central areas).

Another interesting question is how big of an effect does zoning have to where developers choose to build? I'm sure in the case of Dallas and Atlanta, it's much easier to build where areas are already zoned for height rather than fight for a zoning change and deal with the headaches that can cause. In Houston, where stuff gets built is more of a function of demand than anything else.
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Old 11-11-2019, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Both are right on rivers, which often doesn't happen with sunbelt downtowns, and Austin is the only place in the South outside of Miami where people will live downtown in 50 story condos. Don't even see that in Dallas or Houston.
Nashville has a 45 story residential tower already built and occupied with 505 Church Street as well as other towers planned in similar height. Paramount is a proposed tower rising at least 750 feet and 65 stories. Miami and Austin are not unique.

https://urbanland.uli.org/developmen...ntown-density/
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Old 11-11-2019, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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....Dallas has 2 40+ story residential towers downtown currently under construction(if you count Elmplace it's 50 Stories.

Uptown has 2 40+ story towers under construction(One Office and one Residential).



RESEARCH Dallas before you write it off
I did say that I could be extremely wrong on my end due to my belief of love field being close enough to disallow 50 story residential towers. You did see that part, right? I also said I had to research Dallas as well.
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Old 11-11-2019, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Good stuff, thanks. That's definitely going to be a good influx of energy into the CBD with even more new residential going into downtown and uptown.

The contrast between DFW and Atlanta/Houston here is that even though all three are currently building multiple 35-45 story residential highrises, DFW is the only one where those are all going into the CBD (of which I tend to count Uptown as a part). Atlanta is building 39- and 36-story residential highrises, but they are both in Buckhead, not downtown Atlanta. They are, however, also planning a 55-story residential tower in Midtown (which, like Uptown Dallas, I tend to treat as part of the CBD). And along with the aforementioned 46-story residential tower downtown, Houston is building a 38-story residential tower in River Oaks and a 36-story one in Montrose.

It's interesting because (generally speaking) DFW is seen as the more decentralized metro when compared with the other two, so there's some irony that the highest-intensity residential development seems to be more centralized there, at least right now. I think all three could support significantly more residential downtown, and high-rise living is going through an upswing in popularity right now, so it will be interesting to see if those trends hold, or if DFW starts seeing more residential highrise outside of the CBD/Uptown (or conversely, if Houston and Atlanta see more residential highrises within their respective central areas).

Another interesting question is how big of an effect does zoning have to where developers choose to build? I'm sure in the case of Dallas and Atlanta, it's much easier to build where areas are already zoned for height rather than fight for a zoning change and deal with the headaches that can cause. In Houston, where stuff gets built is more of a function of demand than anything else.
DFW metroplex is definitely multi-nodal, but Central Dallas is very centralized for the city of Dallas.
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Old 11-12-2019, 02:37 PM
 
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Nashville has a 45 story residential tower already built and occupied with 505 Church Street as well as other towers planned in similar height. Paramount is a proposed tower rising at least 750 feet and 65 stories. Miami and Austin are not unique.

https://urbanland.uli.org/developmen...ntown-density/
True, but Miami and Austin are somewhat unique in that residential towers are starting to dominate their skylines.
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Old 11-12-2019, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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True, but Miami and Austin are somewhat unique in that residential towers are starting to dominate their skylines.
You're right. I guess I still prefer cities that have a signature tower or towers. At the street level, Miami seemed faster paced, but not by much.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:45 PM
 
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Atelier on Flora will be 41 floors.

The Victor in Victory Park will be 39 or 40 floors.

There’s a Hillwood office bldg lot that’s fenced off for construction and supposed to be the tallest bldg in Uptown.
Thanks...because i was just about to address the situation.

This is for SPADE..... Elm Place is our 52 story residential tower under construction Downtown.

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Old 11-12-2019, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Flawduh
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You're right. I guess I still prefer cities that have a signature tower or towers. At the street level, Miami seemed faster paced, but not by much.
It did??? Faster paced than what?
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Old 11-13-2019, 04:39 PM
 
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Thanks...because i was just about to address the situation.

This is for SPADE..... Elm Place is our 52 story residential tower under construction Downtown.
Technically a redevelopment, and there's also a hotel component to that building. But good stuff nonetheless.
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Old 11-14-2019, 11:50 AM
 
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Technically a redevelopment, and there's also a hotel component to that building. But good stuff nonetheless.
The hotel takes up 3 floors out of 52..so its still mostly residential.
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