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OMG it is true. As the Black mecca being key. Is what it is.
Go into the Atlanta forum too and read.... same people will jump on you there if no Atlanta praising. I read not post.....
What does black mecca have to do with a vibrant downtown? The HBCUs aren't downtown. Is Underground Atlanta still shuttered? What new developments have occurred the last 20 years. To me, what's helped by far downtown Atlanta is the growth of Georgia State U.
Good point, I disagree on 6th and Frenchman though.
Speaking of function, Frenchman St is a secondary corridor of entertainment but it's nothing like 6th St. Bourbon and 6th are both the main drags for entertainment in either city. Frenchman is small and not that known outside of the city. Frenchman St is a bit more local but tourists still find their way there, that's not at all the case with 6th St. I really don't understand your view on this.
I'm not talking about which is better, longer, bigger, well known.
Bourbon is a general debauchery area. It's more of a pedestrian mall than a bar spot.
Yes it's the most well known street in New Orleans but again I'm comparing function, not which is the most known.
If someone asks where to go for live music in Austin I would recommend 6th St. If they ask for New Orleans I would recommend Frenchmen St.
If they are asking for all out Debauchery, I would recommend Bourbon. It's an area unique to New Orleans. You are not going to see a topless woman walking down 6th street at 4pm on a Thursday afternoon with an open bottle of liquor in one hand and a joint in the other. 6th and Bourbon are just not the same types of streets.
In terms
Atlanta residents by and large aren't leisurely hanging out in downtown over Midtown either, and the same is pretty much true for suburban/OTP residents apart from Hawks, Falcons, and Atlanta United games. That may change in a few years, but Midtown has held that advantage at least for the past two-three decades or so. Excluding GA State's campus, there are more out-of-towners than locals out and about after hours in downtown seeing as though it caters much more to conventioneers and tourists than Midtown.
While obviously downtown + Midtown together constitute Atlanta's commercial core, Atlanta is still generally characterized as decentralized. Even if it's ginormous city limits are a huge reason for this, Houston is generally perceived as being more centralized than Atlanta.
Is it fair to say that some fast growing 20th century cities that came into their own prior to "the return to city centers" created secondary downtowns rather than improving the downtowns that they already had? It sure feels like that in Atlanta. If you went to midtown and nobody told you that there was also a downtown, you might not even know that it was there.
What does black mecca have to do with a vibrant downtown? The HBCUs aren't downtown. Is Underground Atlanta still shuttered? What new developments have occurred the last 20 years. To me, what's helped by far downtown Atlanta is the growth of Georgia State U.
For starters, almost the entire Ivan Allen Jr. Blvd corridor (minus the WOC/aquarium garages and one-story structures).
I agree with you on all other points, but plenty of new developments have come into being in downtown Atlanta over the past 20 years with many being oriented towards visitors (hotels, attractions) and GSU/student-related developments. But there's also been some residential and, of course, the streetcar and Mercedes-Benz Stadium. Centennial Olympic Park and Woodruff Park have also undergone improvements and there have been quite a few adaptive reuse projects completed with several in progress, most notably for south downtown.
I'm not talking about which is better, longer, bigger, well known.
Bourbon is a general debauchery area. It's more of a pedestrian mall than a bar spot.
Yes it's the most well known street in New Orleans but again I'm comparing function, not which is the most known.
If someone asks where to go for live music in Austin I would recommend 6th St. If they ask for New Orleans I would recommend Frenchmen St.
If they are asking for all out Debauchery, I would recommend Bourbon. It's an area unique to New Orleans. You are not going to see a topless woman walking down 6th street at 4pm on a Thursday afternoon with an open bottle of liquor in one hand and a joint in the other. 6th and Bourbon are just not the same types of streets.
In terms
So I think what's clear is that you simply aren't familiar with 6th street. Have you actually been to Austin? There is very little live music on 6th Street and really hasn't been for at least 20 years. Music is fairly distributed throughout the core but if you had to pick a single street it's easily Red River. The only place on 6th I think of for live music is Hotel Vegas and maybe the Parish. Additionally a topless wasted person is exactly what you'd expect to see on "dirty" sixth street. It has that nickname for a reason. Open containers are only allowed during certain events though.
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It has that nickname for a reason. Open containers are only allowed during certain events though.
