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Old 11-14-2019, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Part of it is the fact that Chicagoland, minus whatever is in Indiana and Wisconsin, still has a larger population than Philadelphia and Pittsburgh combined and larger metros tend to have higher GDP per capitas so adding Pittsburgh to Philadelphia shouldn't have the exact same effect to the combined GDP as simply increasing Philadelphia's GDP by 38%.
Is that really true? Chicagoland is 8-ish million in Illinois and Philly + Pittsburgh is 8-ism million in Pennsylvania, isn't it? At the very least they are certainly comparable in population.

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Old 11-14-2019, 02:50 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Is that really true? Chicagoland is 8-ish million in Illinois and Philly + Pittsburg is 8-ism million in Pennsylvania, isn't it? At the very least they are certainly comparable in population.
A county breakdown in Illinois vs. PA would be helpful for comparing the respective metro areas.

Not rural PA or rural Ill, just the counties in each respective metro. (excluding Indiana, Wisconsin, New Jersey, and Delaware).

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Old 11-14-2019, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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Chicago's MSA population within Illinois is 8,628,040 as July 1, 2018

Philadelphia + Pittsburgh MSAs total population within Pennsylvania is 6,452,477 as of July 1, 2018

The new GDP figures by county will come out next month on the 12th. We will really be able to break down these numbers however we like then.

https://www.bea.gov/data/gdp/gdp-county

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Old 11-14-2019, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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Chicago's MSA population within Illinois is 8,478,837 as July 1, 2018

Philadelphia + Pittsburgh MSAs total population within Pennsylvania is 6,452,477 as of July 1, 2018

The new GDP figures by county will come out next month on the 12th. We will really be able to break down these numbers however we like then.

https://www.bea.gov/data/gdp/gdp-county
Wow. Thank you for doing this. Greatly appreciated. I thought Chicago's MSA within IL was only about ~1,000,000 higher than the combined populations of the Philadelphia MSA and Pittsburgh MSA within PA's boundaries. Chicago truly is a beast!
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Old 11-14-2019, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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Wow. Thank you for doing this. Greatly appreciated. I thought Chicago's MSA within IL was only about ~1,000,000 higher than the combined populations of the Philadelphia MSA and Pittsburgh MSA within PA's boundaries. Chicago truly is a beast!
You're welcome, and actually I messed up by relying on Wikipedia for information on delineating the Chicago MSA. When double checking with the most recent delineations from the Census Bureau for 2018 it's an even bigger number for the Chicago MSA population within Illinois: 8,628,040

https://www.census.gov/geographies/r...ion-files.html

I re-checked the Philadelphia + Pittsburgh number just to be sure and that one is correct.
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Old 11-15-2019, 08:47 AM
 
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A county breakdown in Illinois vs. PA would be helpful for comparing the respective metro areas.

Not rural PA or rural Ill, just the counties in each respective metro. (excluding Indiana, Wisconsin, New Jersey, and Delaware).
I totally forgot about the fact that PA's suburbs that contribute to its GDP are heavily populated in NJ and DE. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd assume the portion of Philly's MSA in other states is much higher than the portion of Chicago's MSA in other states. I mean, South Jersey is pretty heavily populated and is literally right across the river. Chicago's counties in WI and IN are pretty far away and would likely be much smaller and less influential than Camden, Gloucester, Burlington, and New Castle Counties, right?
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Old 11-15-2019, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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Mississippi is Tragic by almost every measure and rating.


Mississippi is in the 30s place of GDP. That's not tragic but certainly modest. Per capita income is the lowest in the country but that doesn't equates to poorest as well. Now of the per capita was half or less of the national income sure I'll say it's a well deserve title.
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Old 11-15-2019, 10:03 AM
 
Location: New York City
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I totally forgot about the fact that PA's suburbs that contribute to its GDP are heavily populated in NJ and DE. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd assume the portion of Philly's MSA in other states is much higher than the portion of Chicago's MSA in other states. I mean, South Jersey is pretty heavily populated and is literally right across the river. Chicago's counties in WI and IN are pretty far away and would likely be much smaller and less influential than Camden, Gloucester, Burlington, and New Castle Counties, right?
The PA suburban counties are by far the economic leaders of the state and Philadelphia region (Montgomery, Chester, Delaware, Bucks Counties), BUT South Jersey is also home to 2ish million people and very much economically and culturally connected to Philadelphia, much more-so than any neighboring state near Chicago.

Northern Delaware is also home to well over 500,000 people and a huge economic / banking hub for the Philadelphia region.

It does make it harder to compare the two regions because of that.
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Old 12-31-2019, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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Per capita GDP figures updated with the July 1, 2019 state population estimates released yesterday:

$206,130 - District of Columbia

$88,812 - New York
$85,976 - Massachusetts
$79,757 - Connecticut
$79,057 - California
$78,322 - Washington
$77,243 - Delaware
$75,860 - Alaska
$74,838 - North Dakota
$72,268 - New Jersey
$70,531 - Maryland
$70,517 - Illinois
$68,747 - Wyoming
$68,390 - Hawaii
$67,503 - Colorado
$67,272 - Minnesota
$65,303 - Nebraska
$64,890 - Texas
$64,828 - New Hampshire
$64,653 - Virginia
$63,297 - Pennsylvania
$61,500 - Iowa
$59,960 - South Dakota
$59,698 - Rhode Island
$59,550 - Ohio
$59,402 - Wisconsin
$59,369 - Oregon
$59,162 - Kansas
$58,459 - Utah
$57,745 - Georgia
$56,675 - Nevada
$56,594 - Louisiana
$55,782 - North Carolina
$55,775 - Indiana
$55,469 - Vermont
$55,392 - Tennessee
$53,994 - Michigan
$53,855 - Missouri
$52,095 - Oklahoma
$50,625 - Florida
$50,047 - Arizona
$49,946 - Maine
$49,510 - New Mexico
$48,591 - Montana
$47,840 - Kentucky
$47,601 - South Carolina
$46,896 - Alabama
$45,016 - Idaho
$43,886 - Arkansas
$43,666 - West Virginia
$39,737 - Mississippi
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Old 01-02-2020, 08:09 AM
 
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Here is the percent change in GDP per person from 2010 - 2019:

1 California $53,003 $79,057 49.2%
2 Washington $54,361 $78,322 44.1%
3 North Dakota $52,671 $74,838 42.1%
4 New York $62,645 $88,812 41.8%
5 Oregon $42,763 $59,369 38.8%
6 Ohio $43,099 $59,550 38.2%
7 Michigan $39,118 $53,994 38.0%
8 Massachusetts $62,582 $85,976 37.4%
9 Tennessee $40,330 $55,392 37.3%
10 Utah $42,679 $58,459 37.0%
11 Illinois $51,645 $70,517 36.5%
12 Hawaii $50,134 $68,390 36.4%
13 South Carolina $35,426 $47,601 34.4%
14 Georgia $43,032 $57,745 34.2%
15 Pennsylvania $47,181 $63,297 34.2%
16 Colorado $50,732 $67,503 33.1%
17 New Hampshire $48,730 $64,828 33.0%
18 Wisconsin $44,726 $59,402 32.8%
19 Iowa $46,443 $61,500 32.4%
20 Kansas $44,774 $59,162 32.1%
21 Texas $49,201 $64,890 31.9%
22 Minnesota $51,249 $67,272 31.3%
23 South Dakota $46,039 $59,960 30.2%
24 Nebraska $50,271 $65,303 29.9%
25 Indiana $43,203 $55,775 29.1%
26 Florida $39,241 $50,625 29.0%
27 Arizona $38,831 $50,047 28.9%
28 Maryland $54,811 $70,531 28.7%
29 New Jersey $56,319 $72,268 28.3%
30 Maine $38,928 $49,946 28.3%
31 Alabama $36,561 $46,896 28.3%
32 North Carolina $43,543 $55,782 28.1%
33 Vermont $43,322 $55,469 28.0%
34 Idaho $35,195 $45,016 27.9%
35 Oklahoma $40,762 $52,095 27.8%
36 Rhode Island $47,096 $59,698 26.8%
37 Montana $38,462 $48,591 26.3%
38 Kentucky $37,933 $47,840 26.1%
39 Arkansas $34,874 $43,886 25.8%
40 Missouri $43,170 $53,885 24.8%
41 West Virginia $35,226 $43,666 24.0%
42 Mississippi $32,086 $39,737 23.8%
43 Nevada $45,768 $56,675 23.8%
44 Virginia $52,856 $64,653 22.3%
45 New Mexico $40,788 $49,510 21.4%
46 Delaware $63,977 $77,243 20.7%
47 Connecticut $66,493 $79,757 19.9%
48 Washington DC $176,361 $206,130 16.9%
49 Louisiana $49,781 $56,594 13.7%
50 Wyoming $66,358 $68,747 3.6%
51 Alaska $74,458 $75,860 1.9%
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