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Old 11-16-2019, 08:53 AM
 
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Curious if anyone had ever looked at black/white or black/everyone else wage/income gaps by city, metropolitan area, or state. Obviously economics isn't the only metric of progress in this area, and there's likely caveats about different history or demographic proportions in different areas, but I am still curious what the raw data says.

If you're black, where are you the most likely (statistically speaking) to be at economic parity with your non-black neighbors?

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Old 11-16-2019, 08:56 AM
 
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For the most part the Black white wage gap is determined by how wealthy whites are vs how wealthy blacks are.

For example Atlanta and Boston metros have similar black poverty rates but Boston is far wealthier for whites.

Basically smaller wage gap doesn’t necessarily mean higher wages.
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Old 11-16-2019, 08:57 AM
 
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Curious if anyone had ever looked at black/white or black/everyone else wage gaps by city, metropolitan area, or state. Obviously economics isn't the only metric of progress in this area, and there's likely caveats about different history or demographic proportions in different areas, but I am still curious what the raw data says.

If you're black, where are you the most likely (statistically speaking) to be at economic parity with your non-black neighbors?
If I had to guess, I would say that it’s a high-cost Western metro with a minuscule black population. Seattle is the first that comes to mind, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Salt Lake City in Boise were up there too.
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Old 11-16-2019, 09:04 AM
 
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For the most part the Black white wage gap is determined by how wealthy whites are vs how wealthy blacks are.

For example Atlanta and Boston metros have similar black poverty rates but Boston is far wealthier for whites.

Basically smaller wage gap doesn’t necessarily mean higher wages.
Yes that makes sense, but conversely I didn't want people comparing "where are black people the richest," for example, and just giving me a bunch of metropolitan areas that are wealthy overall (not where black people are doing disproportionately economically well).

Is there a statistical fix to this issue you have in mind? I get what you're saying, but I also am still curious about the underlying data and different ways to slice and dice it.
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Old 11-16-2019, 09:05 AM
 
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This might be a little helpful for the larger metros. Not wages but household income.

2018 data.census.gov

Black Median HH Income(# of HHs)
$66,432 Washington(896,035)
$59,830 San Francisco(192,027)
$58,369 Seattle(92,794)
$54,353 Boston(187,108)
$53,105 New York(1,362,957)
$52,860 Atlanta(756,826)
$52,088 Los Angeles(488,405)
$51,148 Phoenix(93,895)
$48,218 Dallas(455,757)
$46,869 Houston(451,521)
$44,100 Miami(418,851)
$41,779 Philadelphia(521,952)
$41,050 Chicago(601,786)
$35,457 Detroit(439,025)


White Median HH Income(# of HHs)
$113,097 San Francisco(1,480,699)
$105,966 Washington(2,020,457)
$95,826 New York (4,708,481)
$87,040 Seattle(1,347,748)
$86,798 Los Angeles(2,438,793)
$85,710 Houston(1,045,000)
$85,288 Boston(2,467,683)
$83,463 Chicago(2,217,539)
$81,905 Philadelphia(1,789,596)
$81,161 Dallas(1,523,337)
$80,412 Atlanta(1,269,927)
$70,973 Phoenix(1,131,828)
$68,200 Detroit(1,498,586)
$67,734 Miami(997,162)
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Old 11-16-2019, 09:07 AM
 
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If I had to guess, I would say that it’s a high-cost Western metro with a minuscule black population. Seattle is the first that comes to mind, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Salt Lake City in Boise were up there too.
I was guessing this might be the case as well, but would be interested to see if that data fit that prior!
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Old 11-16-2019, 09:15 AM
 
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This might be a little helpful for the larger metros. Not wages but household income.

2018 data.census.gov

Black Median HH Income(# of HHs)
$66,432 Washington(896,035)
$59,830 San Francisco(192,027)
$58,369 Seattle(92,794)
$54,353 Boston(187,108)
$53,105 New York(1,362,957)
$52,860 Atlanta(756,826)
$52,088 Los Angeles(488,405)
$51,148 Phoenix(93,895)
$48,218 Dallas(455,757)
$46,869 Houston(451,521)
$44,100 Miami(418,851)
$41,779 Philadelphia(521,952)
$41,050 Chicago(601,786)
$35,457 Detroit(439,025)


White Median HH Income(# of HHs)
$113,097 San Francisco(1,480,699)
$105,966 Washington(2,020,457)
$95,826 New York (4,708,481)
$87,040 Seattle(1,347,748)
$86,798 Los Angeles(2,438,793)
$85,710 Houston(1,045,000)
$85,288 Boston(2,467,683)
$83,463 Chicago(2,217,539)
$81,905 Philadelphia(1,789,596)
$81,161 Dallas(1,523,337)
$80,412 Atlanta(1,269,927)
$70,973 Phoenix(1,131,828)
$68,200 Detroit(1,498,586)
$67,734 Miami(997,162)
Thanks, that is helpful! Maybe it's like:

{Black Median HH Income/All Races Median HH Income} side by side with the size of each group? That way it's strictly the data but also with a qualitative caveat about group size (i.e. maybe there are some MSAs with a tiny black population but it's still interesting to see that data, even if it is Boise or something odd).
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Old 11-16-2019, 09:26 AM
 
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Here's another stat I posted a while back...

US Counties by Median Black Household Income($80,000+), 2017
Tooele, UT $180,459
Clackamas, OR $165,719
Delaware, OH $140,510
Carver, MN $133,206
Loudoun, VA $132,938
Canadian, OK $130,394
El Dorado, CA $126,278
Santa Fe, NM $121,129
Stafford, VA $117,786
Placer, CA $117,319
Davis, UT $110,707
Eau Claire, WI $107,083
Rockingham, NH $105,111
Columbia, GA $95,680
Charles, MD $95,217
Napa, CA $ 94,909
Rockwall, TX $94,714
Kendall, IL $94,221
Laramie, WY $93,915
Jefferson, CO $93,490
Brazoria, TX $ 93,037
Yuba, CA $92,337
Morris, NJ $90,828
Prince William, VA $89,048
Forsyth, GA $ 88,026
Cherokee, GA $87,969
Fauquier, VA $87,022
Scott, MN $86,412
Fairbanks, AK $86,204
Frederick, MD $84,365
Howard, MD $83,781
Marin, CA $83,569
Carroll, MD $83,146
Nassau, NY $82,494
Prince George's, MD $82,147
Licking, OH $81,706
Dallas, IA $81,667
Hamilton, IN $81,463
Citrus, FL $81,062
Fairfax, VA $81,032
Fairfield, OH $80,304
Cape May, NJ $80,022
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Old 11-16-2019, 09:45 AM
 
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This might be a little helpful for the larger metros. Not wages but household income.

2018 data.census.gov

Black Median HH Income(# of HHs)
$66,432 Washington(896,035)
$59,830 San Francisco(192,027)
$58,369 Seattle(92,794)
$54,353 Boston(187,108)
$53,105 New York(1,362,957)
$52,860 Atlanta(756,826)
$52,088 Los Angeles(488,405)
$51,148 Phoenix(93,895)
$48,218 Dallas(455,757)
$46,869 Houston(451,521)
$44,100 Miami(418,851)
$41,779 Philadelphia(521,952)
$41,050 Chicago(601,786)
$35,457 Detroit(439,025)


White Median HH Income(# of HHs)
$113,097 San Francisco(1,480,699)
$105,966 Washington(2,020,457)
$95,826 New York (4,708,481)
$87,040 Seattle(1,347,748)
$86,798 Los Angeles(2,438,793)
$85,710 Houston(1,045,000)
$85,288 Boston(2,467,683)
$83,463 Chicago(2,217,539)
$81,905 Philadelphia(1,789,596)
$81,161 Dallas(1,523,337)
$80,412 Atlanta(1,269,927)
$70,973 Phoenix(1,131,828)
$68,200 Detroit(1,498,586)
$67,734 Miami(997,162)
Do you have a link to this?
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Old 11-16-2019, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Do you have a link to this?
No this is data that I manually extracted but you can also access it through an advanced search at data.census.gov
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