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I doubt many Californians retire to Florida. I've been in Calffornia 7 years, and Florida is rarely brought up at a all. And even then, it's mainly about Florida man memes.
Californians move, but they usually stay in the west/Texas for cheaper cost.
Lol must be a particularly juvenile/unintelligent group of people.
I lived in San Francisco for a good amount and most of the people who I know who left California left for Colorado, Texas, and Arizona. Retiring to Florida or Virginia would actually make the most financial sense, but most people aren’t willing to make the cross-country trip to retire when there are perfectly good, cheap options on the west coast.
I just think they have no desire and prefer the west. Unless it's NYC.
I've lived in humid states and it's brutal. The western states have a similar climate and scenery/lifestyle so its just an easier move for most.
I dont know many Californians who like humidity.
Mainly because of cost. Do you really think if Florida had the same housing costs as California it would still be gaining?
It still has a far better job market than Florida, which is what this subject was about.
Umm yes. Perhaps not at the same degree, but of course it would still be gaining. Housing costs are ONE factor but suggesting people move to Florida primarily because of that is a silly argument. Housing costs are also much cheaper in Mississippi, Alabama, and Louisiana. By your logic, these states would also be booming in population growth.
I disagree and I compared Florida and California only.
So you think if Florida was as expensive as California, those cheaper states around it wouldn't get people priced out from Florida, similar to Nevada and Arizona?
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Many, including the wealthy, are fleeing high tax states following passage of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 that limits SALT write offs and relocating to states with no income tax..also, FL—like CA—has different microclimates. Humidity or heat can be mitigated by living on or close to the coast and receiving breezes. I agree with the other poster that Californians don’t like humidity and often equate it with The Forbidden Zone from the original “Planet of the Apes”; then again, a slight drizzle in January is their lead news story and referred to as “winter storm watch”.
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Umm yes. Perhaps not at the same degree, but of course it would still be gaining. Housing costs are ONE factor but suggesting people move to Florida primarily because of that is a silly argument. Housing costs are also much cheaper in Mississippi, Alabama, and Louisiana. By your logic, these states would also be booming in population growth.
You might not feel the humidity, but i"m sure many from the west do. I've been to plenty of east coast beaches (I'm from the east btw) and the humidity is there no matter what.
Any time I travel back east its suffocating. Even in places like Minnesota or Chicago.
Tampa and Orlando have somewhat respectable Aerospace/Defense and Healthcare industries that pay well, but I'd still say they pale in comparison to the opportunities available in California even accounting for their low COL.
Oh of course. They’re still well behind California pay and opportunities but it just depends on the career. Before I got transferred, I worked in education making $80k in San Francisco and had to live over an hour and a half away just to find a house that wasn’t in the hood with crackheads next door. Got transferred to Orlando and took a $25k pay cut but easily was able to afford a 3-2 ranch home in a desirable neighborhood. For almost every person making under $150k household income, California simply isn’t worth it.
I disagree and I compared Florida and California only.
So you think if Florida was as expensive as California, those cheaper states around it wouldn't get people priced out from Florida, similar to Nevada and Arizona?
You're giving Florida way much too credit then.
You said Florida wouldn’t be “gaining” if it wasn’t as inexpensive, and I disagree. It would still be gaining. It just wouldn’t be at the same degree that it is now.
For all of California’s supposed mass exodus, it is still gaining population. It’s nowhere near as rapid as in the past, but it’s still a net positive. It would be the same for Florida. Many people retire there because of the warm weather and access to the world’s best beaches. Those wouldn’t suddenly disappear just because COL would increase.
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