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Old 12-28-2019, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Originally Posted by QC Dreaming 2 View Post
How is that a head-scratcher? Atlanta has arguably more influence in a general sense in the u.s. than San Francisco does.
Not really. San Francisco is hated by literally half the country in the most visceral way.

This is a political ad in Georgia.


This was a political ad in Missouri.


This was a political ad by the NRA.


Just search 'Fox News San Francisco'.

The Bay Area occupies a whole lot of space in right wing media and social media circles.

Everywhere I go in this country people have a very strong opinion about SF-even people who have never even set foot here, are adamant that they know more about where I live than I do.

Does that happen to anyone else? I hope not.

I suppose this is part of why I started looking at data, to see if there was truth to what naysayers were saying.

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Yes San Fran has the larger economy but when you start thinking of culture, social, sports, music, regional impact, entertainment, diversity of economy, history, etc... than Atlanta is higher imho...
Well, SF invented the television. Can u beat that as far as impact?

Otherwise, we also changed the way the entire human race communicates, procures information, shares information, etc.

Social media is now multi-trillion dollar enterprise that anyone in a free country can access, for free, anywhere in the world.

So while I agree that there are some areas in which Atlanta is more influential domestically, SF is playing a completely different game altogether, that extends well beyond the US.

Just look at the airports...

ATL: 8 Foreign Flag Airlines'
Air Canada Express: Toronto–Pearson
Air France: Paris–Charles de Gaulle
KLM: Amsterdam
Korean Air: Seoul–Incheon
Lufthansa: Frankfurt
Qatar Airways: Doha
Turkish Airlines: Istanbul
Virgin Atlantic: London–Heathrow, Manchester (UK)
WestJet: Calgary

SFO: 47 Foreign Flag Airlines'
Aer Lingus: Dublin
Aeroméxico: Guadalajara, Mexico City
Air Canada: Montréal–Trudeau, Toronto–Pearson, Vancouver
Air Canada Express: Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver
Air China :Beijing–Capital
Air France: Paris–Charles de Gaulle
Air India: Delhi
Air Italy: Milan–Malpensa
Air New Zealand : Auckland
All Nippon Airways Tokyo–Narita
Asiana Airlines : Seoul–Incheon
Avianca El Salvador: San Salvador
British Airways: London–Heathrow
Cathay Pacific: Hong Kong
China Airlines: Taipei–Taoyuan
China Eastern Airlines: Qingdao, Kunming, Shanghai–Pudong
China Southern Airlines: Guangzhou, Wuhan
Copa Airlines : Panama City
El Al: Tel Aviv
Emirates: Dubai–International
EVA Air: Taipei–Taoyuan
Fiji Airways: Nadi
Finnair: Helsinki
French Bee: Papeete, Paris–Orly
Hong Kong Airlines : Hong Kong
Iberia: : Madrid
Icelandair: Reykjavík–Keflavík
Interjet: Cancún, Guadalajara
Japan Airlines: Tokyo–Haneda
KLM: Amsterdam
Korean Air: Seoul–Incheon
Level Barcelona
Lufthansa: Frankfurt, Munich
Norwegian Air: Barcelona, London–Gatwick, Paris–Charles de Gaulle
Philippine Airlines: Manila
Qantas: Brisbane, Melbourne, Sydney
Scandinavian Airlines: Copenhagen
Singapore Airlines: Hong Kong, Singapore
Swiss International Air Lines: Zürich
TAP Air Portugal: Lisbon
Thomas Cook Airlines: Manchester
Turkish Airlines: Istanbul
Virgin Atlantic : London–Heathrow
Volaris: Mexico City, Guadalajara
WestJet : Calgary, Vancouver
XL Airways France: Paris–Charles de Gaulle
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Old 12-28-2019, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Oh boy. Someone questioned the stature of the west coast's darling.
Not at all. We're supposed to ask questions in life.

Just dont get mad by the answer.

2010-2018 GDP Growth
+$436B San Francisco CSA +72.27%
+$141B Atlanta CSA +47.95%
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Old 12-28-2019, 12:35 PM
 
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Yeah. No offense but SF is in another tier.

SF would be better compared to D.C. in terms of economic weight where Atlanta would be more comparable to Seattle. ATL and SEA put out fairly similar GDP's while SF is literally the innovation capital of the nation currently and it isnt slowing down despite its significant downfalls.

In terms of regional influence, Atlanta shines more than SF but in terms of international influence, SF no contest. In terms of national influence I'd still give the edge to SF due to its progressive stature. Although I particularly am not much a fan of what they are doing out there, being realistic it comes up as a subject a crapton more than Atlanta does... ...although admittedly I'm not sure this is a good thing.
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Old 12-28-2019, 01:03 PM
 
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#1 top tier = NYC / L.A
#2 lower tier = D.C / S.F / CHI
#3 lower tier = PHILLY/BOS
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Old 12-28-2019, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Originally Posted by aries4118 View Post
No it ain’t. Think of the country divided into sectors:


East/Northeast

Midwest

South

Texas

Florida

West
The country is not divided in those sectors.
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Old 12-28-2019, 01:10 PM
 
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I want to add something, too. I gave great consideration to San Jose, which I believe us beginning to shed its image as a SF suburb. Rightfully so. But i dont think alone it's a Top 20 city yet, a lot of physical and educational output coming from SJ, but its tremendous growth is obviously and clearly fueled from SF's muscle...

But again with that said, SJ is starting to distance itself as a respectable city in it's own right, and i think moving forward into the new decade, we have to respect that it may become even more of a power. I have it in my Top 25 most important cities, but it has to continue growing positively. It doesn't have the legacy of Baltimore to give it benefit of doubt. But it's coming and i think by 2030 we may have to accept that it's a Top 20 power...

It will be interesting to see if SJ's continued ascent causes SF to lose a little luster and stature...
Probably the only city in the world that's viewed as a suburb of a city smaller than itself.
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Old 12-28-2019, 01:12 PM
 
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#1 top tier = NYC / L.A
#2 lower tier = D.C / S.F / CHI
#3 lower tier = PHILLY/BOS
Extreme southern hate if you think Houston, Dallas, or Atlanta aren't in the top 3 tiers. At least one of them has to be
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Old 12-28-2019, 01:15 PM
 
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Extreme southern hate if you think Houston, Dallas, or Atlanta aren't in the top 3 tiers. At least one of them has to be
Yes I'd rank Houston next to Chicago,My apologies lol
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Old 12-28-2019, 01:16 PM
 
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Not really. San Francisco is hated by literally half the country in the most visceral way.

This is a political ad in Georgia.


This was a political ad in Missouri.


This was a political ad by the NRA.


Just search 'Fox News San Francisco'.

The Bay Area occupies a whole lot of space in right wing media and social media circles.

Everywhere I go in this country people have a very strong opinion about SF-even people who have never even set foot here, are adamant that they know more about where I live than I do.

Does that happen to anyone else? I hope not.

I suppose this is part of why I started looking at data, to see if there was truth to what naysayers were saying.



Well, SF invented the television. Can u beat that as far as impact?

Otherwise, we also changed the way the entire human race communicates, procures information, shares information, etc.

Social media is now multi-trillion dollar enterprise that anyone in a free country can access, for free, anywhere in the world.

So while I agree that there are some areas in which Atlanta is more influential domestically, SF is playing a completely different game altogether, that extends well beyond the US.

Just look at the airports...

ATL: 8 Foreign Flag Airlines'
Air Canada Express: Toronto–Pearson
Air France: Paris–Charles de Gaulle
KLM: Amsterdam
Korean Air: Seoul–Incheon
Lufthansa: Frankfurt
Qatar Airways: Doha
Turkish Airlines: Istanbul
Virgin Atlantic: London–Heathrow, Manchester (UK)
WestJet: Calgary

SFO: 47 Foreign Flag Airlines'
Aer Lingus: Dublin
Aeroméxico: Guadalajara, Mexico City
Air Canada: Montréal–Trudeau, Toronto–Pearson, Vancouver
Air Canada Express: Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver
Air China :Beijing–Capital
Air France: Paris–Charles de Gaulle
Air India: Delhi
Air Italy: Milan–Malpensa
Air New Zealand : Auckland
All Nippon Airways Tokyo–Narita
Asiana Airlines : Seoul–Incheon
Avianca El Salvador: San Salvador
British Airways: London–Heathrow
Cathay Pacific: Hong Kong
China Airlines: Taipei–Taoyuan
China Eastern Airlines: Qingdao, Kunming, Shanghai–Pudong
China Southern Airlines: Guangzhou, Wuhan
Copa Airlines : Panama City
El Al: Tel Aviv
Emirates: Dubai–International
EVA Air: Taipei–Taoyuan
Fiji Airways: Nadi
Finnair: Helsinki
French Bee: Papeete, Paris–Orly
Hong Kong Airlines : Hong Kong
Iberia: : Madrid
Icelandair: Reykjavík–Keflavík
Interjet: Cancún, Guadalajara
Japan Airlines: Tokyo–Haneda
KLM: Amsterdam
Korean Air: Seoul–Incheon
Level Barcelona
Lufthansa: Frankfurt, Munich
Norwegian Air: Barcelona, London–Gatwick, Paris–Charles de Gaulle
Philippine Airlines: Manila
Qantas: Brisbane, Melbourne, Sydney
Scandinavian Airlines: Copenhagen
Singapore Airlines: Hong Kong, Singapore
Swiss International Air Lines: Zürich
TAP Air Portugal: Lisbon
Thomas Cook Airlines: Manchester
Turkish Airlines: Istanbul
Virgin Atlantic : London–Heathrow
Volaris: Mexico City, Guadalajara
WestJet : Calgary, Vancouver
XL Airways France: Paris–Charles de Gaulle
I think Massachusetts/New York get the same treatment.

Kerry, Romney and Dukakis were all attacked for being from Massachusetts.
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Old 12-28-2019, 01:21 PM
 
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Man half of the SF hate on CD is a reaction to 18Montclair dabbing on all you guys lmao.
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