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Haven’t been to Minneapolis since I was in Elementary School.
I’ll say:
1. Seattle
2. Atlanta/Detroit (not a vast difference in downtown core itself, though Atlanta feels bigger once getting out of that downtown)
4. Austin
Wow. Just to clarify, big city feel isn’t solely predicated on place with highest ppsm... that’s not what I intended, anyway. Residential density is just one facet big city feel.
Let’s say hypothetically speaking, you have 1 city with a few pockets of 40k ppsm and another with 7k ppsm over several miles from its focal core, it would not be clear that the former automatically feels larger. Not using this as proof against Seattle, but ppl tend to drop the highest ppsm in their city as if it is the final world.
Do you all really think Detroit lacks big city feel that much? Though I said I didn’t want to rely abandoned/underutilized infrastructure as an argument, I should’ve clarified that I meant using it an absolutist sense, much the same way people are using ppsm for Seattle. I think Detroit deserves more props here. It once housed millions of people in its city alone, I fail to see why ppl are being so hard on it.
Wow. Just to clarify, big city feel isn’t solely predicated on place with highest ppsm... that’s not what I intended, anyway. Residential density is just one facet big city feel.
Let’s say hypothetically speaking, you have 1 city with a few pockets of 40k ppsm and another with 7k ppsm over several miles from its focal core, it would not be clear that the former automatically feels larger. Not using this as proof against Seattle, but ppl tend to drop the highest ppsm in their city as if it is the final world.
Do you all really think Detroit lacks big city feel that much? Though I said I didn’t want to rely abandoned/underutilized infrastructure as an argument, I should’ve clarified that I meant using it an absolutist sense, much the same way people are using ppsm for Seattle. I think Detroit deserves more props here. It once housed millions of people in its city alone, I fail to see why ppl are being so hard on it.
Seattle's residential density within city limits is highest regardless of how you count it...the highest sustained core density and the highest average density. None of these cities are peers in the former, and only Minneapolis even gets into the same field in the other.
Things get sketchier in the suburbs, though it's also the only one in this group that's significantly slowed its outward growth into farms and forests.
Does Detroit really just feel a lot smaller than it actually is? Why?
The place doesn’t necessarily feel small. It’s half-emptied out from its heyday. Much of what is there is pretty rough. A turnaround of sorts is taking place but it has a long way to go still.
I’d say it’s more of an outlier here than Austin is.
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