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Old 06-08-2020, 08:52 AM
 
Location: 215
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Maybe they do. I wasn't fully serious. Just in a city like Philly where homicides haven't hit 400 since 2006, perhaps certain city officials wouldn't want things to look as bad as they really are.
I don't think it's that big of a conspiracy, cities do not factor in self defense, manslaughter, and as you stated, death via law enforcement into their homicide totals. Also, the manner in which the homicides occurred in bare context. Hypothetically, 1 person is murdered for the rest of the mont. The crime would appear to be trending downward, however, what's omitted is that the 1 homicide came from a series of shootings that left 30 people injured with gunshot wounds ; filed as Aggravated Assault with a Firearm.
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Old 06-08-2020, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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6/8/2020 update 12:00 PM


New York City 151
Los Angeles 117
Chicago 244-----same time in 2019 it was 230
Philly 174----highest since 2006 and 2007
Houston 160
Detroit 105
Baltimore 140
Phoenix 53
Las Vegas 31
Dallas 75
Milwaukee 74
Tulsa 31
Atlanta 39
Boston 21
Albuquerque 26
Oakland 30
Cleveland 54
Nashville 51
Memphis 93
Indianapolis 87
Kansas City, MO 80
San Jose 15


Little Rock, Arkansas 24
Birmingham, AL 46
Toledo, Ohio 12
Sacramento, Cali 19
Bakersfield, Cali 15
Jackson, MS 43
KNOXVILLE, TN 17
East St.Louis IL 9
Camden, NJ 5
Shreveport, Louisiana 18

Buffalo,NY 21
Syracuse, NY 7
Middletown, CT 1
New Haven, CT 5
Tacoma, WA 12
Tampa, Florida 17
Fayetteville, NC 8
Greenville, SC 11
Kansas City, Kansas 17
Winston Salem, NC 13
Bloomington, Indiana 3
Wilkinsburg, PA 6---Pittsburgh area
Paterson, NJ 6
Newark, NJ 17
Macon, GA 28

Troy, AL 2
Greenwood, SC 3
TUSCALOOSA, AL 5
OPELIKA, AL 2
Chula Vista, Cali 2
Grand Rapids, MI 9
Santa Fe 3
Easton, PA 1
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Old 06-08-2020, 03:07 PM
 
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Overall crime is at 20 year low in Chicago but shootings and homicides remain the same

Chicago had 18 homicides reported last Sunday May 31th alone it was most violent day in 60 years

Data from the lab does not pre-date 1961, but the next-highest single-day murder total in Chicago was on Aug. 4, 1991, when 13 Chicagoans died in homicides, according to the report.

When the entire weekend is taken into context, 25 people were killed citywide from late May 29 through May 31, while another 85 people were hurt by gunfire, the Sun-Times reports, making it the most violent weekend in modern Chicago history.

In May 2020 alone, there were 332 shootings and 85 homicides, up from 198 and 53, respectively, in May 2019.

Data also shows 1,127 shooting victims through May 2020, which marks a 30% increase over last year. The total number of shootings, homicides and shooting victims in 2020 are each at their highest point since 2017, according to police data.

Still, the CPD said robberies, burglaries, thefts and carjackings in Chicago remain at 20-year lows so far this year.


https://news.wttw.com/2020/06/08/pol...ings-rise-2020

https://nypost.com/2020/06/08/inside...n-six-decades/
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Old 06-08-2020, 03:08 PM
 
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SYRACUSE, NY correction is 8
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Old 06-08-2020, 07:36 PM
 
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Philadelphia now at 175. 400 mark is starting to look like a reality. Time for the boomers to un-retire "killadelphia" and blame Jim Kenney.
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Old 06-08-2020, 10:26 PM
 
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Philadelphia now at 175. 400 mark is starting to look like a reality. Time for the boomers to un-retire "killadelphia" and blame Jim Kenney.
If you want to see boomers blaming Kenney, Krasner, and Outlaw for every ill in the city, just go on r/philadelphia.
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Old 06-08-2020, 10:43 PM
 
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If you want to see boomers blaming Kenney, Krasner, and Outlaw for every ill in the city, just go on r/philadelphia.
I stay off the Philadelphia subreddit as much as possible, you'd think it's is comparable Baghdad the way people exaggerate the crime and plight of the city. One person gets robbed: "Philadelphia is becoming dangerous, it wasn't like this 10 years ago, thank's Kenney!" The Discord server is a better representation of the city.
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Old 06-09-2020, 12:01 AM
 
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Overall crime is at 20 year low in Chicago but shootings and homicides remain the same

Chicago had 18 homicides reported last Sunday May 31th alone it was most violent day in 60 years

Data from the lab does not pre-date 1961, but the next-highest single-day murder total in Chicago was on Aug. 4, 1991, when 13 Chicagoans died in homicides, according to the report.

When the entire weekend is taken into context, 25 people were killed citywide from late May 29 through May 31, while another 85 people were hurt by gunfire, the Sun-Times reports, making it the most violent weekend in modern Chicago history.

In May 2020 alone, there were 332 shootings and 85 homicides, up from 198 and 53, respectively, in May 2019.

Data also shows 1,127 shooting victims through May 2020, which marks a 30% increase over last year. The total number of shootings, homicides and shooting victims in 2020 are each at their highest point since 2017, according to police data.

Still, the CPD said robberies, burglaries, thefts and carjackings in Chicago remain at 20-year lows so far this year.


https://news.wttw.com/2020/06/08/pol...ings-rise-2020

https://nypost.com/2020/06/08/inside...n-six-decades/
The Covid lockdown will definitely mitigate against crimes of opportunity, because there are simply less opportunities to commit them. But the fact that murders continue to spike in the city demonstrates to me at least that Chicago has a persistent and unique problem with murder that is kind of a part of the city's civic DNA. And unlike cities like New York and Washington, which used to have very severe crime issues, I don't think Chicago has the appeal and the wealth to easily gentrify those problems away. Chicago's going to have to actually *solve* the problem and it's clear that they have no clue how to do that. Chicago's terrible segregation and race history combined with being a frigid coastless city that is easily passed up for big coastal metros means that there is a lot of work to do.
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Old 06-09-2020, 03:14 AM
 
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The Covid lockdown will definitely mitigate against crimes of opportunity, because there are simply less opportunities to commit them. But the fact that murders continue to spike in the city demonstrates to me at least that Chicago has a persistent and unique problem with murder that is kind of a part of the city's civic DNA. And unlike cities like New York and Washington, which used to have very severe crime issues, I don't think Chicago has the appeal and the wealth to easily gentrify those problems away. Chicago's going to have to actually *solve* the problem and it's clear that they have no clue how to do that. Chicago's terrible segregation and race history combined with being a frigid coastless city that is easily passed up for big coastal metros means that there is a lot of work to do.
I don't know, I mean New York City actually physically did a lot to solve it too, It wasn't all through gentrification. And If Chicago doesn't have the wealth and appeal, why are a ton of 500foot+ residential Towers under construction. Chicago is pretty much known throughout the world as America's 2nd city (as I don't quite think LA is thought of as competing with New York in urbanness.)

If anything, it's just the reputation of overwhelming violence that has been beaten to no end since 2014 that may be affecting the world's perception of Chicago as a hip cosmopolitan city. It's weird too. I'm 26 and until 2014 I never heard of Chicago being referred to as a city with a worse crime problem than New York. There were no gangsta crime dramas set there like New York and the only famous rappers from there were non violent rappers like Kanye West, Lupe Fiasco, Twista, and Common. New York was were all the rap about killing was from, and a few other cities.

Then in 2014 I just started hearing about all this "Chicago murder capital, Chiraq, Chief Keef, mumble rappers that everybody only 5 years younger than me is obsessed with but kids in my grade would've laughed at". Chicago just created this subculture so fast. Chicago went from being thought of mostly for its white culture and Jim Belushi, Blue's Brothers, John Hughes movies to being known for its new black culture with 17 year old black kids with dreads covering their face pointing guns at the screen and having 10,000 murders every year.

Luckily it seems like People still recognize Chicago for its white culture too and aren't actually afraid to go there even if they talk about it like they are.
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Old 06-09-2020, 04:39 AM
 
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Chicago had 18 homicides reported last Sunday May 31th alone it was most violent day in 60 years
Yet no single personality is saying enough is enough... 18 in a single day and no protest... This is why I have hard time feeling with all that protests because they seem to march only when a certain color is involved...

Most act out of emotion and when emotion is present, people do not act logically... 18 murders in a single day and no protest... I would love to be able to walk in any part of the US without fearing to catch a straight bullet (I am black).

18 homicides in a single day, they might run out of people to kill
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