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I agree. Same with NYC. Small percent of shootings actually lead to homicides. Chicago aims for the head...or just has better shooters.
Which is ironic considering majority of shooting deaths are walks up; someone sitting in their car or standing on the sidewalk. Drive by's happen but not that often, maybe rarely and are usually for more than one target.
2019 was Jacksonville’s deadliest year since the crack epidemic of the late 80s/early 90s (in total homicide case count) with 162 homicides. The 100 mark was passed on August 12th, earlier than normal by about a month. This year the 100 (and 101 mark were passed last night a full 1 month and 2 days ahead of record setting 2019. It’s not a good year for Jacksonville
NYC 205
LA 145
Chicago 365----higher than 2016 and 2017
Philly 218
Baltimore 171
Dallas 107
Houston 179----compare to 142 in 2019
DC 94
Indianapolis 115
Minneapolis 30
Jacksonville, FL 99
Charlotte, NC 55
Atlanta 53
San Diego 23
Portland, Ore 15
New Orleans 93
Detroit 141
Jersey City, NJ 8
New Haven, CT 9
Bridgeport, CT 10
Gulfport, MS 7
Vicksburg, Mississippi 6
Tyler, TX 4
Wilmington, NC 5
YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio 16
Shreveport, Louisiana 25
Columbus, GA 21
Lubbock, Texas is at 20 the count total was 16 in 2019
Anchorage, AK 11
Tucson, Arizona 18
After another bloody weekend Chicago is now somewhere between 376 and 380 for the total to date. That is almost 20 more than the historically violent 2016 at this time, and a handful more than slightly less violent 2017 at the same point. A lot can happen in the next six months and hopefully it will get better as the year goes on. But right now 800+ seems more likely than not for the year.
The 10 largest urban black hoods collectively shoulder about 63% or so of the nationwide black homicides. Once you add in the next 10 largest black hoods and your looking at near the 80ish.
Majority to plurality of the causation is the same reason as today: Interpersonal conflicts / domestic violence. Other incidents such as gang/crew violence, drug trade, robberies, & serial killers varied by locale.
Drug related homicides varied by city and usually wasn't a majority of black homicides. Occasionally plurality but not always. Even in NYC 90s, it accounted about 30% of homicides.
Just sharing info from digging into old newspapers, sociological research papers, & UCR stats. Some things haven't changed to much.
After another bloody weekend Chicago is now somewhere between 376 and 380 for the total to date. That is almost 20 more than the historically violent 2016 at this time, and a handful more than slightly less violent 2017 at the same point. A lot can happen in the next six months and hopefully it will get better as the year goes on. But right now 800+ seems more likely than not for the year.
I still refuse to let myself believe Chicago will hit 700 homicides again. If it does, we might as well metaphorically throw Chicago in the trash because it's reputation will not recover after that. 700 is just too big of a milestone and seems a whole lot worse than 600something and is just so much higher than any other city.
Especially if Chicago hits a higher number than NY and LA combined. That is probably the most tangible statistic that sticks in the average person's mind when they hear it. It will just perpetuate the stereotype that Chicago is as bad as Mexico or Afghanistan, and the city's reputation will once again be semi-permanently tarnished, this time probably until at least 2030.
I still refuse to let myself believe Chicago will hit 700 homicides again. If it does, we might as well metaphorically throw Chicago in the trash because it's reputation will not recover after that. 700 is just too big of a milestone and seems a whole lot worse than 600something and is just so much higher than any other city.
Especially if Chicago hits a higher number than NY and LA combined. That is probably the most tangible statistic that sticks in the average person's mind when they hear it. It will just perpetuate the stereotype that Chicago is as bad as Mexico or Afghanistan, and the city's reputation will once again be semi-permanently tarnished, this time probably until at least 2030.
If you must mock a whole city. Be reasonable and stop extremism unless you want to play in the Politics forum as they might saying -- throw a whole city in the trash. I would never say that for Philly and would you?
I still refuse to let myself believe Chicago will hit 700 homicides again. If it does, we might as well metaphorically throw Chicago in the trash because it's reputation will not recover after that. 700 is just too big of a milestone and seems a whole lot worse than 600something and is just so much higher than any other city.
Especially if Chicago hits a higher number than NY and LA combined. That is probably the most tangible statistic that sticks in the average person's mind when they hear it. It will just perpetuate the stereotype that Chicago is as bad as Mexico or Afghanistan, and the city's reputation will once again be semi-permanently tarnished, this time probably until at least 2030.
I think Chicago is certainly becoming equivalent to St. Louis, Baltimore, and Detroit in terms of violence in the national imagination, which is, yes, disastrous. Strictly in terms of murder rate that is not entirely accurate or fair, but 800 murders is 800 murders and once you're at that point nobody listens to or really cares about your intricate statistical analysis showing that AKSHUALLY Chicago is not as bad as Baltimore because if you look at this complex flow chart you can see that...Come on. In any case, I have made the case here a lot for why Chicago is naturally at a disadvantage to cities like Atlanta, Seattle, Washington, Houston, Phoenix, etc. (much less its traditional peers like San Francisco, New York, Los Angeles) in terms of attracting commerce and people. Being located in the middle of the country, between a great lake and a great sea of corn, with weather like that, Chicago has to work harder to attract people than sunnier and more coastal locales. It is why Chicagoland is losing population quickly and cities like Atlanta, Tampa, and Charlotte are gaining people quickly (and those people are often from Chicago). Chicago is no longer even competing with New York for business and growth. It's competing with Denver. And when you are saddled with incredible public debt, a financially bankrupt state, and one of the worst murder problems in the entire country, it's going to be an uphill battle every time.
Chicago is a special place and it could really be a model for affordable big city living going forward. But with a crime problem--and, frankly, a segregation problem that fuels that crime--like that, it isn't a very bright future. And that is true no matter how many Trump towers or designer lofts in Lincoln Park you put up.
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