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Old 01-05-2020, 07:49 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Baltimore
How So?
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Old 01-05-2020, 07:53 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Biloxi and Atlantic City are definitely a poor man's Vegas.

I guess Baltimore or Newark is a poor man's Philadelphia and Erie PA is a poor man's Cleveland. Detroit is probably a poor man's Chicago.
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Old 01-05-2020, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Pittsburgh's job profile is pretty white collar in 2020.
The culture is not however.
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Old 01-05-2020, 08:11 PM
 
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Chicago is a poor man's Toronto. Both by the lake, both have towering skyscrapers, but have cities with a dense downtown and suburban centers outside, both have ethnic neighborhoods.
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Old 01-05-2020, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Not really. Not in the US anyway. It's the federal capital. The closet thing in the US would have to be a state capital that is very prominent in both it's state, and the country as a whole.
Denver. But you guys don't like it. It has the biggest federal work force outside of DC at the Denver Federal Center.

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Old 01-05-2020, 09:38 PM
 
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Chicago is a poor man's Toronto. Both by the lake, both have towering skyscrapers, but have cities with a dense downtown and suburban centers outside, both have ethnic neighborhoods.
In your dreams. Chicago's GDP is almost twice that of Toronto.
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Old 01-05-2020, 10:17 PM
 
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Chicago is a poor man's Toronto. Both by the lake, both have towering skyscrapers, but have cities with a dense downtown and suburban centers outside, both have ethnic neighborhoods.
Lol
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Old 01-06-2020, 04:57 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Denver. But you guys don't like it. It has the biggest federal work force outside of DC at the Denver Federal Center.
Growing up in the 1960s, I had heard it said that Kansas City had the largest Federal workforce outside Washington itself. It was a regional headquarters for most Federal Government departments, one of eight IRS service centers, home to two major munitions plants (Lake City and Sunflower) and the National Severe Storms Forecast Center.

That last has moved to Oklahoma City, and many of the others have downsized, though a good chunk of the USDA is about to move there.

As of right now, according to St. Louis Fed data, there are about 600 more Federal employees in Kansas City than in Denver. But Federal employment in KC is spikier than it is in Denver, and if I read the two FRED graphs right (Kansas City's, Denver's), there will be times when the KC figure dips below Denver's and other times when it rises a good deal above it. (Edited to add: I do see from those same charts, however, that in the 1990s, Federal employment in Denver was far greater than it was in Kansas City. When did the Rocky Mountain Arsenal downsize or close? ISTR that Denver's old airport, Stapleton, was hemmed in by its presence next door, which was why Denver International Airport was located so far out from the city center - and wasn't it on land that had been part of the arsenal?)

Of course, Denver is also home to a branch office of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. That's a function of the relative status and size of the two cities when the Federal Reserve System was established in 1914; were it to be established from scratch today, Denver would probably be the headquarters of its own Federal Reserve district.

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Old 01-06-2020, 06:13 AM
 
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Buffalo is a poor man's Cleveland
Des Moines is a poor man's Columbus, OH
Savannah is a poor man's Charleston, SC
Oklahoma City is a poor man's Dallas
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Old 01-06-2020, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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The culture is not however.
Says who? I live here unlike you. It's certainly not some blue collar mill city like it was 30 years ago. The 40 and under crowd in this city is very different from the 60 and up side.
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