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nothing wrong with that. then a nice stroll back to walk it off a little. I will say in some of these denser cities like SF, Philly, NYC, etc., people take rail transit for a stop or two if it's convenient and cut down the walking time.
LOL! It would have been a 30 minute walk to LUNCH on a beautiful day, through downtown streets. Not like it was off some highways.
And even if it were for dinner, yes I'd still do this. Why not?
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nothing wrong with that. then a nice stroll back to walk it off a little. I will say in some of these denser cities like SF, Philly, NYC, etc., people take rail transit for a stop or two if it's convenient and cut down the walking time.
Right. But even these modern sunbelt cities, if lacking proper rail transit, still have e-bikes and scooters for rent all over the place that also significantly cut down walking time.
I honestly saw no reason at all to drive to that destination from where I was, and I only agreed to it due to friends insisting and being so persistent. A 30 minute walk through downtown is enjoyable for me. If I wanted to cut the time down, An e-bike ride would have taken 10 minutes at the most, which is pretty much equal to driving, minus the stress of dealing with traffic, etc.
I find it quite comical that people just don't walk in these cities, no matter how urban and increasingly dense they are becoming.
LOL! It would have been a 30 minute walk to LUNCH on a beautiful day, through downtown streets. Not like it was off some highways.
And even if it were for dinner, yes I'd still do this. Why not?
Right. But even these modern sunbelt cities, if lacking proper rail transit, still have e-bikes and scooters for rent all over the place that also significantly cut down walking time.
I honestly saw no reason at all to drive to that destination from where I was, and I only agreed to it due to friends insisting and being so persistent. A 30 minute walk through downtown is enjoyable for me. If I wanted to cut the time down, An e-bike ride would have taken 10 minutes at the most, which is pretty much equal to driving, minus the stress of dealing with traffic, etc.
I find it quite comical that people just don't walk in these cities, no matter how urban and increasingly dense they are becoming.
I live in an inner city Houston neighborhood and I’ll walk 10-15 minutes for coffee/lunch. 30 minutes is pushing it for me. In NYC, London, Paris, Madrid - yes! I won’t walk for an hour to eat anywhere unless there is some other stop in between, and even then that restaurant would have to be “5-star!”
I think you guys are younger and fitter than I am, and probably single!
LOL! It would have been a 30 minute walk to LUNCH on a beautiful day, through downtown streets. Not like it was off some highways.
And even if it were for dinner, yes I'd still do this. Why not?
Right. But even these modern sunbelt cities, if lacking proper rail transit, still have e-bikes and scooters for rent all over the place that also significantly cut down walking time.
I honestly saw no reason at all to drive to that destination from where I was, and I only agreed to it due to friends insisting and being so persistent. A 30 minute walk through downtown is enjoyable for me. If I wanted to cut the time down, An e-bike ride would have taken 10 minutes at the most, which is pretty much equal to driving, minus the stress of dealing with traffic, etc.
I find it quite comical that people just don't walk in these cities, no matter how urban and increasingly dense they are becoming.
well some people don't feel comfortable riding an ebike through downtown streets so I can understand that (and this is in any city, including classically dense ones). I also knew people before who'd call a rideshare rather than rent a scooter (basically what would happen here is all the girls took the rideshare and the dudes take the scooters lol).
I live in an inner city Houston neighborhood and I’ll walk 10-15 minutes for coffee/lunch. 30 minutes is pushing it for me. In NYC, London, Paris, Madrid - yes! I won’t walk for an hour to eat anywhere unless there is some other stop in between, and even then that restaurant would have to be “5-star!”
I think you guys are younger and fitter than I am, and probably single!
Maybe that is the urbanist profile!
Did this walk last time I was in NYC in July to go get Lunch:
It was very enjoyable for me. I then went to Little Island, and did some more random walking around, before heading back to my hotel.
Quite frankly, aside from the vibrancy, I just don't see how it would have been THAT much different to walk to that place in Atlanta -- the parts I would have walked through are all urban blocks/neighborhoods with pedestrian-friendly sidewalks and crossings. Just a totally different mindset in these cities.
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well some people don't feel comfortable riding an ebike through downtown streets so I can understand that (and this is in any city, including classically dense ones). I also knew people before who'd call a rideshare rather than rent a scooter (basically what would happen here is all the girls took the rideshare and the dudes take the scooters lol).
Haha! Alright I can see that...
Case in point, when it was time to fly back home, I suggested to the woman I'm seeing that I would just take MARTA to the airport. Her response: "Why would you do that?" Um... What??? The station is literally across the street from where I was staying.
Spoiler: She ended up picking me up from downtown and driving me to the airport.
I'd add that I think for people who are used to walking daily, the estimates are going to be pretty different. The guy posted a 1.3 mile walk and that does not seem daunting whether before or after dinner or both. I do wonder though if my walking speed would slow down after spending a bit of time there. I also think this is also a pretty good distance for transit or biking and it does seem like both options are available. I did find it odd that one of the transit options was going north to the subway stop instead of south given the two were nearly equidistant and I assume waiting in a downtown stop is more pleasant than by a highway ramp.
The cities you named were largely built out in an era where car culture wasn’t a thing.
Older legacy cities and newer sunbelt cities are not built the same. They probably never will be. Most cities in America will never completely take on the look of older cities in the Northeast. That development style ended generations ago. Cities in the sunbelt will have nodes of density/urbanity in a generally suburban style metro area.
No Atlanta especially had a very dense core before the car. As time went in they decided to bulldoze through the city with a 16 lane highway.
But was it on the level of a Philly or Boston? Those cities seems to have more consistent density outside the core as well.
Nowhere near Philly or Boston but it did have a denser core than Houston and Dallas. I mean it was older and bigger than Atlanta pre WW2
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