Atlanta vs Houston vs Dallas, Which City will be more urban at the end of the decade? (best, state)

[hickoryfan]

How do you become more urban? You either live in an urban area or a rural area...

[Exult.Q36]

Originally Posted by jd433

Im putting Westchase Houston at #15. I do not know how it compares to Perimeter or Cumberland Galleria but I think it outranks the Dallas Galleria area.

https://images.app.goo.gl/Sw1Sc9f6ujDmeFqc8

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You’re just posting stuff with no evidence to back up your assertion.

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by JMatl

Perimeter Center needs to be at #9, it has more office space than Uptown. And you left off Cumberland/Galleria, which should probably be slotted behind Uptown and ahead of Downtown Fort Worth with over 20 million sf of office space. Forth Worth has approximately 12 million sf.

^^^^^^
Yes, this.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perimeter_Center


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumberland,_Georgia

[jd433]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Energy_Corridor

Originally Posted by aries4118

^^^^^^
Yes, this.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perimeter_Center


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumberland,_Georgia

[isawooty]

Originally Posted by jd433

Here are my rankings of the CBD's. This will help determine which is actually more urban/denser/ bigger city feel etc.. Please if anyone has knowledge or can help make an accurate ranking please assist. If you have pictures to prove it please post them.
Ranked by size, density and presence
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#1) Downtown Houston, The largest by far

#2) Downtown Dallas, A BIT LARGER THAN DT-ATL

#3) Downtown Atlanta

#4) Midtown Atlanta

#5) Texas Medical Center-HOU

#6) Uptown Dallas

#8) Buckhead

#9) Uptown Houston

#10) Fort Worth

#11) Greenway Plaza-HOU

#12) legacy West -PLANO

#13) Memorial City-Houston ?

#14 Perimeter ATL ?

I can’t wait for the day that folks accept these three for their strengths and their weaknesses.

I can’t with this list though.

[JMatl]

Originally Posted by jd433

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Energy_Corridor

I don't know, does the Energy Corridor contain a major regional mall and a concentrated Medical District?

[jd433]

The Memorial City mall is just across the Beltway from the energy Cortidor. Keep in mind that we are talking about only the 5th largest business district in Houston so no one is writing home about the Energy Corridor. We should start with Downtown and then go from there.

Originally Posted by JMatl

I don't know, does the Energy Corridor contain a major regional mall and a concentrated Medical District?

[isawooty]

Originally Posted by JMatl

I don't know, does the Energy Corridor contain a major regional mall and a concentrated Medical District?

That’s even besides the point.

Downtown and Midtown alone contain over 50 million square feet of office space vs 43 million as feet for Houston’s CBD. Downtown and Midtown form Atlanta’s CBD. Not just DTA.

Over all, Atlanta has 220 million sq ft vs 231 sq ft million for Houston. Houston is a larger region by at least 400-500k depending on the definition, so it should have more office space.

https://www.lee-associates.com/atlan...ket-Report.pdf

https://colliershouston.s3.us-east-2...t-Colliers.pdf

I really don’t think people realize just how big Perimeter Center and Cumberland really are.

[DabOnEm]

Originally Posted by isawooty

That’s even besides the point.

Downtown and Midtown alone contain over 50 million square feet of office space vs 43 million as feet for Houston’s CBD. Downtown and Midtown form Atlanta’s CBD. Not just DTA.

Over all, Atlanta has 220 million sq ft vs 231 sq ft million for Houston. Houston is a larger region by at least 400-500k depending on the definition, so it should have more office space.

https://www.lee-associates.com/atlan...ket-Report.pdf

https://colliershouston.s3.us-east-2...t-Colliers.pdf

I really don’t think people realize just how big Perimeter Center and Cumberland really are.

Houston metro is actually larger than Atlanta metro by almost one million people at this point. Makes sense that Atlanta has a lot of office space since it's also a state capital. Looking at the same source (Colliers), Atlanta is actually closer to Houston in overall office space (230M vs 225M).

[isawooty]

Originally Posted by DabOnEm

Houston metro is actually larger than Atlanta metro by almost one million people at this point. Makes sense that Atlanta has a lot of office space since it's also a state capital. Looking at the same source (Colliers), Atlanta is actually closer to Houston in overall office space (230M vs 225M).

True. But I was saying at minimum if folks prefer CSA over MSA.

North Fulton, which is centered on Alpharetta has 29.5 million sq ft above Perimeter Center, which has 29.6 million sq ft. Alpharetta is a freaking monster!