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I heavily agree with this. Atlanta's suburbs are more urbanized imo. But the thing about the bolded is that Houston's most urban suburbs are CityCentre, Memorial,etc. They are in the city limits but are still textbook suburbs. This takes into account the massiveness of the city limits of HOU
I agree. And the thread is about which city week be more urban. Not which has the more suburbs.
Go a few miles east or west of Atlantas core and you are in the country. In Houston and Dallas there is no change for 15 or more miles.
Anyway you slice it Houston is the most built up city of the 3. You can extend 20 plus miles in each direction and it's just continously built up.
2 or 3 miles in almost any direction in Atlanta and it feels very exurban.
Dallas is a lot more continuous than Atlanta but not as continuous as Houston.
Houston may not have the most urban core but it is certainly the more urban city of the 3.
Dallas is next.
Atlanta is 3rd.
I know people will say the points are nitpicking but outside Atlanta's core any distance in any direction compared to the other 2 and Atlanta is last. There's a reason Atlanta is the last dense major urban area in the world.
Anyway you slice it Houston is the most built up city of the 3. You can extend 20 plus miles in each direction and it's just continously built up.
2 or 3 miles in almost any direction in Atlanta and it feels very exurban.
Dallas is a lot more continuous than Atlanta but not as continuous as Houston.
Houston may not have the most urban core but it is certainly the more urban city of the 3.
Dallas is next.
Atlanta is 3rd.
I know people will say the points are nitpicking but outside Atlanta's core any distance in any direction compared to the other 2 and Atlanta is last. There's a reason Atlanta is the last dense major urban area in the world.
I fully disagree with this. None of the examples you presented show much in the way of urbanity. Atlanta may be data wise the least sense of the three, but it has a different feel from the other two . All three cities drop off in urban form radiating out from the city, but Atlanta does a much better job in its immediate core Decatur, Smyrna, West End, East Point, sandy Springs then what you will find in Dallas or Houston in creating space that is not just sprawl you could find in the outer burbs and exurbs.
I understand. I just on my visits to both cities Dallas and Houston, the notable in town neighborhoods seem much less urban than the Atlanta intown neighborhoods and even inner burbs. The Beltline for me gives a leg up to both Houston and Dallas, Buffalo bayou was nice addition to Houston but there are no really projects of that scale that come to mind, please let me know if I am missing any recent big ones I have not been to Dallas since 2018 and was last in Houston in 2020 right before COVid hit. Not to mention the street level presence, although again nothing like a northeastern city, or Chicago, but certainly much more vibrancy than Houston or Dallas.
I agree. And the thread is about which city week be more urban. Not which has the more suburbs.
Go a few miles east or west of Atlantas core and you are in the country. In Houston and Dallas there is no change for 15 or more miles.
Those 15 or more miles are 90% car-oriented development (same as Atlanta). It doesn't matter that Texas suburbs are denser. The lifestyle is exactly the same. If you're on foot, central Atlanta is better than both central Dallas and Houston.
That's all well and good is we are taking about the core of each city. But the question is the city as a whole. And it's clear that Atlanta overall feel is exurban apart from very small exceptions.
Houston and Dallas are not the most urban cities but they are no where as country feeling as Atlanta.
Houston and Dallas may have a ton of suburban sprawl but Atlanta has rural sprawl starting right from the core
That's all well and good is we are taking about the core of each city. But the question is the city as a whole. And it's clear that Atlanta overall feel is exurban apart from very small exceptions.
Houston and Dallas are not the most urban cities but they are no where as country feeling as Atlanta.
Houston and Dallas may have a ton of suburban sprawl but Atlanta has rural sprawl starting right from the core
Suburban development is suburban. I'm not counting those areas as urban at all. Density isn't the only thing needed for urbanity.
Depends on how one looks at it. But like someone said above, Houston is definitely the more built-out city of the three, no matter how you put it.
Atlanta is certainly the most urban of all (at least in "feeling"), but that's only IMMEDIATELY in it's core. Like others have said, driving a few miles east or west or north or south of that same core is a totally different vibe...pure ruralty (yea, I know that isn't a word, lol). It feels almost the same way going east or south out of Dallas' core, just to a lesser degree. Going west or north is much better. Houston is literally the only one of the three where the "urban feel" stretches for miles and miles in ALL directions from it's core.
Spacecity they are judging the cities based on 1% of the city and ignoring the fact that 99% of the city of Atlanta is exurban. I can't think of any areas in Houston that would fit that character. Maybe it has 1%.
They are saying all 3 is suburban sprawl but naw, Atlanta is exurban sprawl. Might have to go 25 miles before you get to that in Houston but in Atlanta it goes from urban to rural in a minute
Spacecity they are judging the cities based on 1% of the city and ignoring the fact that 99% of the city of Atlanta is exurban. I can't think of any areas in Houston that would fit that character. Maybe it has 1%.
They are saying all 3 is suburban sprawl but naw, Atlanta is exurban sprawl. Might have to go 25 miles before you get to that in Houston but in Atlanta it goes from urban to rural in a minute
I lived in Atlanta for 2 years and I've been living in Houston going on close to 12 years.
When we lived in Atlanta we moved to Chamblee which during rush hour is a 35 min drive. I worked in Duluth which was a 25 minute drive.
In my 12 years of living in Houston, I've lived in Humble, Northwest Houston, Westchase, The Woodlands and now in the Energy Corridor.
Yes, Houston is the more built up city. Houston has more concrete and in-fill than Atlanta. Atlanta has more rural looking areas in it's metro area.
However I can honestly say I prefer Atlanta's urban experience better than Houston's. Because a lot of Houston's built up city is pretty much suburban sprawl. It's endless miles of suburbia landscape that's completely dependent on a car to get around. And most of Houston's suburbs outside of The Woodlands is a 100% built around cars. At least Frisco and Plano allows for some kind of urban type development. Granted Houston city limits is much bigger than Dallas and Atlanta but from a urban perspective it's the less impressive despite being more densely populated.
For example one of Houston's most walkable neighborhoods away from it's core is Gulfton. Who the hell wants to walk and hang out in that area?
At least when I lived in Chamblee (which btw is urbanizing more than where we live now in the Energy corridor) I could take the marta to the airport to give me a vibe similar to what you get in a NE city.
Spacecity they are judging the cities based on 1% of the city and ignoring the fact that 99% of the city of Atlanta is exurban. I can't think of any areas in Houston that would fit that character. Maybe it has 1%.
Maybe the stretch of 288 south after passing Pearland...that's about all I can think of.
They are saying all 3 is suburban sprawl but naw, Atlanta is exurban sprawl. Might have to go 25 miles before you get to that in Houston but in Atlanta it goes from urban to rural in a minute
That's EXACTLY my point.
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