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Old 01-10-2020, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Seattle aka tier 3 city :)
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I've noticed that everyone focuses on the upper class urban experience but what about the blue collar experience? When I think of cities with large urban areas that are middle class, Philly, New Jersey, Baltimore, Cleveland, Cincinnati, east New York, cities immediately north of Boston, and south/west Chicago, come to mind. The West Coast seems devoid of large urban areas with middle class people with the exception of Los Angeles and parts of Oakland. Honorable mention to NOLA. How would you rank these cities for the size and influence of their perspective middle class urban areas have on the rest of the city?
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Old 01-10-2020, 07:58 PM
 
Location: PNW
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Portland OR feels very blue collar in parts.
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Old 01-10-2020, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I've noticed that everyone focuses on the upper class urban experience but what about the blue collar experience? When I think of cities with large urban areas that are middle class, Philly, New Jersey, Baltimore, Cleveland, Cincinnati, east New York, cities immediately north of Boston, and south/west Chicago, come to mind. The West Coast seems devoid of large urban areas with middle class people with the exception of Los Angeles and parts of Oakland. Honorable mention to NOLA. How would you rank these cities for the size and influence of their perspective middle class urban areas have on the rest of the city?
are you talking union jobs, industrial jobs, or service jobs

any which way Baltimore is way up there. extremely blue collar
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Old 01-10-2020, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Seattle aka tier 3 city :)
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are you talking union jobs, industrial jobs, or service jobs

any which way Baltimore is way up there. extremely blue collar
Mostly talking about solid middle class folk doesn't matter if it's a trade or a teacher, seems like the middle class has been pushed out in to the fringes. I've noticed most cities consist of people who are well off and those on government assistance, nothing in between.
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Old 01-10-2020, 08:23 PM
 
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Every city has an "in between." Every single city. In some, they probably share an apartment, a house, whatever they can find, because living in their particular city might not be feasible, without the help of others.
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Old 01-10-2020, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Mostly talking about solid middle class folk doesn't matter if it's a trade or a teacher, seems like the middle class has been pushed out in to the fringes. I've noticed most cities consist of people who are well off and those on government assistance, nothing in between.
Yea the southern 1/3rd of Boston proper. And an but more densely populated immediately north/northeast if the city.

Most of Philadelphia.

Outer regions of Queens Brooklyn and most of staten Island , part of the Bronx

Much of SE and NE DC

Nearly all of Baltimore

Almost all of Jacksonville

70% of Worcester MA

Much of Yonkers NY

All of Orlando FL

Los Angeles

Chicago

Milwaukee
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Old 01-10-2020, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Seattle aka tier 3 city :)
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Every city has an "in between." Every single city. In some, they probably share an apartment, a house, whatever they can find, because living in their particular city might not be feasible, without the help of others.
I didn't mean literally, and FYI if you have to live with roommates or family to make ends meet I would not consider that middle class.
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Old 01-10-2020, 08:52 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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New York: Queens, Staten Island
Chicago: Northwest Side
Philadelphia: Northeast Philadelphia, South Philadelphia (west of Broad Street)
Pittsburgh: West End, South Hills (away from downtown)
Cleveland: West Side (away from downtown)
Columbus: West Columbus
Cincinnati: West Side (away from downtown)
Indianapolis: South Side
Charlotte: West Charlotte
Louisville: South Louisville
Nashville: Northeast Nashville, Northwest Nashville
St. Louis: South St. Louis
Kansas City: Northland Kansas City, Northeast Kansas City
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Old 01-10-2020, 09:26 PM
 
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I've noticed that everyone focuses on the upper class urban experience but what about the blue collar experience? When I think of cities with large urban areas that are middle class, Philly, New Jersey, Baltimore, Cleveland, Cincinnati, east New York, cities immediately north of Boston, and south/west Chicago, come to mind. The West Coast seems devoid of large urban areas with middle class people with the exception of Los Angeles and parts of Oakland. Honorable mention to NOLA. How would you rank these cities for the size and influence of their perspective middle class urban areas have on the rest of the city?

I think you really mean lower middle class, right? Middle class today typically means non blue collar in most cities (I think). And granted, this may not even directly mean amount of money made per year, it's more of a social thing now.
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Old 01-10-2020, 09:34 PM
 
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I've noticed that everyone focuses on the upper class urban experience but what about the blue collar experience? When I think of cities with large urban areas that are middle class, Philly, New Jersey, Baltimore, Cleveland, Cincinnati, east New York, cities immediately north of Boston, and south/west Chicago, come to mind. The West Coast seems devoid of large urban areas with middle class people with the exception of Los Angeles and parts of Oakland. Honorable mention to NOLA. How would you rank these cities for the size and influence of their perspective middle class urban areas have on the rest of the city?



I think you really mean lower middle class, right? Middle class today typically means non blue collar in most cities (I think). And granted, this may not even directly mean amount of money made per year, it's more of a social thing now. Middle class in most major metros means you live in either a young urban enclave or a nice suburban area with good schools. But I think a lot of blue collar people live in the less trendy areas, probably with average schools. I'm makning this distinction because I think of upper class as the rich, which are definitely apart from middle class.
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