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Think about that: in a country of 331,000,000, only 10,000 think Canada is worth it. That's 0.003% of the population.
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Wrong.
10.000 is the number of people who qualify, if you knew the Canadian immigration system, which you most likely don't, you would see that there is a set of requirements needed to be met in order to get Permanent Residence.
Something as common as having a speeding ticket in your police record can crush your chances.
On the other hand, if you want to go to the US you simply need a brother or close relative who can sponsor you and that's it.
Then how do you justify the thousands of American citizens that apply for Canadian Permanent Residence every year?
Just for the record, the US is listed #5 as source country for new permanent residents in Canada.
You have probably even tried to apply yourself and got rejected, which probably explains your disdain for anything Canadian.
While That’s overly harsh the net flow of immigrants is south to the US from Canada.
But of course there is a lot of movement between the two countries. They are economically and culturally the country with the closest ties with the other
regarding current construction:
Toronto has 202 Highrises under-construction right now (100 over 100m)
NYC has 112 highrises under-construction (72 over 100m)
Not sure where you got your numbers...
But I am finding different counts, around 80 for Toronto, many of those over 100m in height.
Unlike others on here, I never downplayed Torontos building boom, but I have yet to see a logical argument as to how Torontos building boom is superior to New Yorks?
Its not meant to be petty, but do you really think the amount/level/complexity of construction projects and buildings (not singular when referring to buildings, just generally/overall) in Toronto are on par or greater than whats happening throughout New York City?...
But I am finding different counts, around 80 for Toronto, many of those over 100m in height.
Unlike others on here, I never downplayed Torontos building boom, but I have yet to see a logical argument as to how Torontos building boom is superior to New Yorks?
Its not meant to be petty, but do you really think the amount/level/complexity of construction projects and buildings (not singular when referring to buildings, just generally/overall) in Toronto are on par or greater than whats happening throughout New York City?...
208 tall buildings currently U/C within the city limits. There is also a chart on page 6 where it shows a breakdown by stories U/C. As for it being superior to NYC, no one said that but the boom is bigger than NYC because of the number of towers U/C, future transit projects and how the city adds nearly 80,000 people a year with 110-130,000 in the metro per year. It still doesn't change the fact that NYC is the capital of the world, but that doesn't mean that NYC automatically wins for the most impressive boom currently ongoing. Especially since the population is decreasing and the city's finances are horrible (last I heard, long-term household debt is $81K in NYC + insane spending). I always factor in population growth, infrastructure and if a city has a surplus or deficit. To me, it doesn't make sense if a city has a more "superior" boom because they're building more supertalls, yet are neglecting transit, have a population decrease and aren't fiscally responsible.
Why would I move to Canada to get a massive pay cut and spend 9 months in Winter? If I'm moving, it's further south: Key West or San Juan.
Thankfully, the U.S. offers lots of tropical paradises. Can't say the same for Canadians who have to vacation in Victoria because that's what passes for "warmth" there.
10.000 is the number of people who qualify, if you knew the Canadian immigration system, which you most likely don't, you would see that there is a set of requirements needed to be met in order to get Permanent Residence.
Something as common as having a speeding ticket in your police record can crush your chances.
On the other hand, if you want to go to the US you simply need a brother or close relative who can sponsor you and that's it.
Both numbers are permanent residents and the U.S. has permanent residence rules as well (an obvious point I'm surprised went over your head).
And you're purposefully missing the point. Why are 3x as many Canadians fleeing "Utopia" (Canada) to go work in the evil Empire (USA) than vice-versa? Why are Canadians 30x more likely to flee that magical Winter wonderland with a perfect economy and where everyone is above average? Hmmmm....
Now this is impressive. I'm doing my part to stay on topic guys.
Thank you...
Please guys, this thread is seriously derailing off topic. If you don't have anything constructive to say about actual development in each of the above cities, just don't say it. There are plenty of other threads where you can vent.
Back to the original topic, I also think NYC has some pretty impressive supertalls that pretty much dwarf most projects currently underway in Toronto. Most of that comes down to economics and geography, in that NYC simply has almost triple the economic wealth than the GTA and that it is a global magnet for ultra-wealthy to park their real estate money (Toronto is also up there but not in the same league as NYC).
The quality of construction in NYC is also generally more impressive and can stand the test of time, especially for their architectural merit. Projects like the new One World Trade Center, the PATH atrium are world class architecture that have yet to materialize in cities like Toronto, Miami, and Seattle. A lot of recent constructions in Toronto are fantastic for increasing the city's skyline density, but they aren't exactly architectural gems (I think most Torontonians can agree on this sentiment when looking at the Aura, One Bloor East, etc. that are supposed to be iconic buildings but all end up being somewhat bland).
I'm sure with the passing of time, cities like Seattle and Toronto will be able to come up with more iconic landmarks of their own. Maybe not in the same league as cities like NYC but still respectable in their own right.
And I agree with others sentiments: stop comparing TO to NYC, or putting TO on the same playing field as NYC. I've lived and worked in both for extensive periods, and still travel to both on a monthly basis for work: there is no comparison. Toronto is an orange, and NYC is still the Big Apple (pun intended )
On a more balanced note, a couple of projects I find really cool in Toronto:
1. The Well, a huge complex of 7 buildings (6 residential, 1 office) with integrated pedestrian-only street, school, public library, community center, theater, and access to LRT transit, currently under construction:
2. Sidewalk Labs Toronto Waterfront, Google's grand experiment on 77-hectares of industrial land to build a smart city from the ground up, which has finally been approved by Waterfront Toronto (a federal agency) to move ahead with construction on Nov 2, 2019. This is a project championed by Google's senior leadership Eric Schmidt and I think will have significant impact on how cities will be developed in the decades to come, especially when it comes to connectivity, energy use (Google promises 89% reduction in carbon footprint), sharing of public and private data, AI and autonomous vehicles and their integration with public transit. Bloomberg reports:
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