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View Poll Results: Most impressive construction boom?
Boston 17 16.50%
Montreal 15 14.56%
San Francisco 19 18.45%
Washington D.C. 52 50.49%
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Old 11-20-2020, 03:32 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Even if you add ene entire state of Maryland, Virginia and D.C. is still doesn't surpass just the city of Montreal though.

over 50m
States of Maryland 11 built from 2010 to 2020 Diagrams - SkyscraperPage.com
States of Maryland 0 under construction
States of Maryland 1 proposed Diagrams - SkyscraperPage.com

but for some reason Montreal's building boom doesn't count
It does in reality, but not on that page is what I'm telling you. I just posted the construction cam angles of multiple 50m + buildings in active construction in Bethesda, Maryland, your link says 0 which is inaccurate. That's not Baltimore, Silver Spring, Rockville nor anywhere else in the state where high rise buildings are being constructed, that's only in Bethesda with at least 4 in current construction. The reasoning this area is misrepresented on that site idk...I can from my own memory in my head tell you there are probably 50+ buildings at least going up over 50m/80 feet throughout DC, MD, and VA, probably significantly more. The page is definitely not accurate because even Richmond would be represented and the Virginia Beach metro areas.

Just simply scrolling https://dc.urbanturf.com/pipeline you can see whatever skyscraper page has calculated is horribly inaccurate.

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Old 11-20-2020, 05:40 PM
 
Location: East Bay, San Francisco Bay Area
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I’d say Washington DC.
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Old 11-20-2020, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Tokyo, JAPAN
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Yea those are just un-updated or off completely. For starters you've omitted Maryland which also has buildings above 50m under construction.

A couple webcam views for you of actual construction and/or renderings in the DC metro area:

Reston Gateway two buildings 420/380 feet respectively:

https://app.oxblue.com/open/clarkcon...erconstruction

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/news2/...n-town-center/

Bethesda, MD Apex redevelopment just under 300 ft:

https://app.oxblue.com/open/clarkcon...erconstruction

Bethesda, MD- Across the street from the above development:

https://dc.urbanturf.com/pipeline/748/Metro_Tower

Marriott Headquarters Bethesda, MD 300 ft:

https://app.truelook.com/?u=hm1537908851#tl_live

In Tysons, VA Capital One headquarters 2nd edifice (not the 470 ft one), I believe is about 410 feet or more, is halfway up and under construction, although I don't have an active webcam for that:

https://www.insidenova.com/news/busi...cc4df3735.html

The Highlands- Rosslyn (this is already up) and opens next year:

https://www.thehighlandsva.com/

There are a number of others I don't have much time to dig up right now, but you get the point. The data on those skyscraper pages is not telling what's happening on the ground actively and accurately.
Amazing, loving all of these, especially that Reston Gateway project and its large scale. DC is really booming!
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Old 11-21-2020, 04:28 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Amazing, loving all of these, especially that Reston Gateway project and its large scale. DC is really booming!
That's only in the first phase too. Much more coming as the upcoming Silver Line station opens next year and expands to Dulles Airport. The residential tower in the rendering isn't underway until the next phase, but will be 485' feet. This is 25 miles outside of DC's core. There's two or three other high rise developments either under construction now or planned in Reston alone.

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Old 11-21-2020, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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What is currently in Boston's pipeline/under way is the most impressive by far.

-4 600ft+ buildings under construction at the moment
-12 buildings over 400ft under construction, approved or proposed.
-6 projects underway to build directly over a highway
-3 individual mass projects with more than 6 million square feet esch. Dorchester Bay Center, Cambridge Crossing, and Suffolk Downs.
-5 projects between 3-5 million square feet including Bulfinch Crossing, Allston Yards and the remainder of Seaport Square.
-100+ buildings over 100ft under construction between Bos Cam and Somerville.
-By 2025, 9/10 tallest buildings in Cambridge will have been built from 2014 onwards.
-20th most expensive building in the world was recently completed in 2017, the Encore.
-24 million square feet of lab has been completed since 2010, or is underway.
DC currently has more under construction and a larger pipeline than Boston. This thread isn't about who is building the tallest buildings. If that was the intention of the thread, a city like DC or Paris etc. shouldn't have been included in the thread to begin with. When it comes to units under construction and in the pipeline, DC is building more and that is just a fact. I posted this earlier in the thread. Unless you have something with higher numbers than this, there is nothing to debate.

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Does Boston have a development report you could post? Where are you getting your stats? The development report for DC is posted below.

2019/2020 DC Proper Development Report

This DC proper annual development summary has over 2,000 major projects, representing more than 340 million SF of development in the District of Columbia.

DC proper continues to experience record residential construction. As of August 2019, there were 17,000 residential units under construction (approximately 78% are market-rate units). 9,622 residential units will deliver in 2019 and 6,805 units in 2020

DC proper had a 2018 taxable retail & restaurant sale increase of 9% over the previous year to $15.6 billion. Since 2000, more than 40 new grocery stores have opened in DC.
The onus is on you to prove Boston has more from actual data we can read from a reputable source. Please post actual numbers. The report above references 116,523,372 million SF of development in the pipeline.
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Old 11-21-2020, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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DC currently has more under construction and a larger pipeline than Boston. This thread isn't about who is building the tallest buildings. If that was the intention of the thread, a city like DC or Paris etc. shouldn't have been included in the thread to begin with. When it comes to units under construction and in the pipeline, DC is building more and that is just a fact. I posted this earlier in the thread. Unless you have something with higher numbers than this, there is nothing to debate.



The onus is on you to prove Boston has more from actual data we can read from a reputable source. Please post actual numbers. The report above references 116,523,372 million SF of development in the pipeline.
Bostons doesn't build more than DC that's for certain and itd be hard to get all the numbers Boston doesn't have a centralized database and sometimes "in the pipeline" is hard to define.

Boston land and labor costs are insane and neighborhood groups are extremely powerful. It can be hard (if not impossible) to get a simple Popeyes open on a vacant lot in the hood-literally. It will never outbuild any major city with a similar level of demand except for SF.
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Old 11-21-2020, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Flawduh
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This thread is interesting...

Anyway, I voted DC, but really, Montreal isn’t far behind.

DC > Montreal >>> Boston > SF right now.
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Old 11-21-2020, 10:17 AM
 
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DC currently has more under construction and a larger pipeline than Boston. This thread isn't about who is building the tallest buildings. If that was the intention of the thread, a city like DC or Paris etc. shouldn't have been included in the thread to begin with. When it comes to units under construction and in the pipeline, DC is building more and that is just a fact. I posted this earlier in the thread. Unless you have something with higher numbers than this, there is nothing to debate.



The onus is on you to prove Boston has more from actual data we can read from a reputable source. Please post actual numbers. The report above references 116,523,372 million SF of development in the pipeline.
I don’t know that this thread is about who is building more...
Rather who has the most impressive boom
This includes the types of construction/infrastructure etc.
Boston is building over highways and extending subway lines

Building a 680 ft tower over rail tracks at south https://archboston.com/community/att...0645-jpg.7964/

https://www.hines.com/properties/south-station-boston

Boston is building insane projects by simultaneously tearing down garages and building skyscrapers
Check this out
https://archboston.com/community/att...e13-jpeg.7920/

And final build out

https://bulfinchcrossing.com/
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Old 11-21-2020, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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I don’t know that this thread is about who is building more...
Rather who has the most impressive boom
This includes the types of construction/infrastructure etc.
Boston is building over highways and extending subway lines

Building a 680 ft tower over rail tracks at south https://archboston.com/community/att...0645-jpg.7964/

https://www.hines.com/properties/south-station-boston

Boston is building insane projects by simultaneously tearing down garages and building skyscrapers
Check this out
https://archboston.com/community/att...e13-jpeg.7920/

And final build out

https://bulfinchcrossing.com/
I think it's pretty clear the cities in this thread can't compete with DC proper on total development under construction or in the pipeline. DC is just on a different trajectory. As the city builds toward 1,000,000 people in 61 sq. miles with over 1,200,000 jobs in 61 sq. miles over the coming decades, the city has no choice but to Manhattanize itself in all 8 wards.

I think what makes DC so dynamic in 2020 is the fact that DC has way more jobs in a 61 sq. mile footprint than almost all cities outside of NYC and Chicago but also is building towards 1,000,000 people inside city limits. To have the level of jobs DC proper has while building towards such a high population will put DC in very rare company across the world.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiz1NQo_9EI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNwk7FqZPzs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whfngtgPW5U
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Old 11-21-2020, 12:15 PM
 
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I think it's pretty clear the cities in this thread can't compete with DC proper on total development under construction or in the pipeline. DC is just on a different trajectory. As the city builds toward 1,000,000 people in 61 sq. miles with over 1,200,000 jobs in 61 sq. miles over the coming decades, the city has no choice but to Manhattanize itself in all 8 wards.

I think what makes DC so dynamic in 2020 is the fact that DC has way more jobs in a 61 sq. mile footprint than almost all cities outside of NYC and Chicago but also is building towards 1,000,000 people inside city limits. To have the level of jobs DC proper has while building towards such a high population will put DC in very rare company across the world.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiz1NQo_9EI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNwk7FqZPzs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whfngtgPW5U
I’m not talking about numbers I was referencing which projects are most impressive from architectural/engineering standpoint...
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