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So instead of acknowledging Montreal's impressive boom, you bombard us with almost a dozen videos... nice, maybe take it easy with the videos? lol.
I never said Montreal isn't booming. There are levels to this. Just because Montreal isn't on DC's level doesn't mean it isn't booming. Until your region comes up with some type of database to actually compare hard numbers, this is a waste of time.
Everyone is just blowing opinions into the wind right now outside of the report I posted for DC. I could also post the DC Metropolitan Council of Governments report if you want to know about regional development in the DC region. Yes, I know DC is unique in being so organized will unprecedented access to data, but it's needed to make any type of comparison between cities. These comparisons aren't subjective. The data exists to find the right answer.
So instead of acknowledging Montreal's impressive boom, you bombard us with almost a dozen videos... nice, maybe take it easy with the videos? lol.
Edit as I watch the videos: Okay so the two lines, one is a small expansion and the other is planned. If we also include planned, Montreal has the pink-line as well (29km length, 29 stations). Bike sharing, Montreal was the first city in North America to do it so, welcome aboard! The park is cute, but Montreal added a 450 acre park and half a dozen U/C downtown right now. the SW eco district looks a lot like the University De Montreal student dorms/neighbourhood expansion. So again, looks like Montreal does indeed compete with DC after all!
Planned? The purple line is under construction and the silver line phase II is about to deliver. Pay attention to the date on the youtube videos. When phase II of the silver line opens next year, the DC metro system will be over 120 miles long all heavy rail rapid transit. The purple line is a 16 mile light rail line that will connect 4 of DC's 6 different subway heavy rail lines.
I never said Montreal isn't booming. There are levels to this. Just because Montreal isn't on DC's level doesn't mean it isn't booming. Until your region comes up with some type of database to actually compare hard numbers, this is a waste of time.
Everyone is just blowing opinions into the wind right now outside of the report I posted for DC. I could also post the DC Metropolitan Council of Governments report if you want to know about regional development in the DC region. Yes, I know DC is unique in being so organized will unprecedented access to data, but it's needed to make any type of comparison between cities. These comparisons aren't subjective. The data exists to find the right answer.
Someone didn't read when I said the Greater Montreal area has 210 projects U/C worth $43B lol. I know you're only focusing on sq. ft, but there is the other data you should consider . It is clear given all my arguments, explaining projects and showing you data (along with the link) collected by governing bodies, pretty safe to say Montreal does compete with DC (which according to you, no cities here do).
Someone didn't read when I said the Greater Montreal area has 210 projects U/C worth $43B lol. I know you're only focusing on sq. ft, but there is the other data you should consider
Well, looks like DC is way ahead then. DC proper alone can compete with that. 210 projects? Did you read this below? DC has $36.6B in the pipeline in 61 sq. miles.
On a metro level, new construction tends to track population growth, despite some of it being replacement rather than net-additional. Within city limits that's harder, because a lot of construction is commercial or institutional and draws workers/customers/students/patients from outside the lines. So you'd get closer to the truth if you have job stats. But pop growth is a great starting point.
Reports by dollars or square footage of construction are great, but the world is full of apples-to-oranges and half-assed reports. These also just don't exist in many places. And they're never up-to-date, even if they're reasonably accurate.
I've been attempting to analyze and predict my own construction market for decades, from a general contractor perspective. But my reports are pretty consistent on one thing: data only takes you so far, it's generally limited or flawed, and a lot of key questions don't have data. Much of my job is about guessing. (This may be heresy in the academic world, but welcome to how things work outside those walls.)
Well, looks like DC is way ahead then. DC proper alone can compete with that. 210 projects? Did you read this below? DC has $36.6B in the pipeline in 61 sq. miles.
Well, looks like DC is way ahead then. DC proper alone can compete with that. 210 projects? Did you read this below? DC has $36.6B in the pipeline in 61 sq. miles.
Key difference here, you're mentioning pipeline (I.E planned) which given this current situation, might not happen. The data about Montreal is U/C, as in it is going to happen and is under construction... wow! not rocket science here.
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So MTL: 143 projects, $32B
DC proper: 214 projects, $14B value
So in terms of construction, DC has 71 more projects, but Montreal has $18B more value... which actually is more impressive here. So again, looks like it does compete with DC lol which is what others are saying as well. No **** DC is booming, but to say that no cities here can compete (MTL can), that data right there once again proves it lol.
Also I should mention that the MTL document leaves out all projects below $20M in value, which right there includes hundreds of smaller projects (social housing, small parks, smaller condo projects, etc..)
Pipeline is interesting but says little about a city's upcoming construction volume. First, plans often don't happen. Second, apples to oranges. Especially because much of it relates to differences in local entitlement processes.
Well, looks like DC is way ahead then. DC proper alone can compete with that. 210 projects? Did you read this below? DC has $36.6B in the pipeline in 61 sq. miles.
Counting "pipeline" proposals is like counting pre-med students as doctors because they're in the "pipeline". It carries about as much weight. Many pipeline projects never happen, but then many more come that aren't even listed. For DC, it probably evens out, but still...who knows?
I never said Montreal isn't booming. There are levels to this. Just because Montreal isn't on DC's level doesn't mean it isn't booming. Until your region comes up with some type of database to actually compare hard numbers, this is a waste of time.
Everyone is just blowing opinions into the wind right now outside of the report I posted for DC. I could also post the DC Metropolitan Council of Governments report if you want to know about regional development in the DC region. Yes, I know DC is unique in being so organized will unprecedented access to data, but it's needed to make any type of comparison between cities. These comparisons aren't subjective. The data exists to find the right answer.
To be fair, asking which is "most impressive" is a subjective question and can't be unequivocally determined with statistics.
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. It is clear given all my arguments, explaining projects and showing you data (along with the link) collected by governing bodies, pretty safe to say Montreal does compete with DC (which according to you, no cities here do).
