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Old 01-28-2020, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I think that's true for every city. Look at every Spiderman movie ever made with the exception of the most recent one. There was a thread about Spiderman: Homecoming and one poster went on a rant about SJWs diversifying the Spiderman cast out of PC fear. Someone pointed out that Queens, NY isn't 90% White and the OP basically said, "Oh, didn't know that" and then disappeared.
Right so you see what I’m saying...Boston often portrayed as the absolute antithesis of what it actually is to the point it’s laughable.

The town and films like it irk the population of Charlestown: https://charlestownbridge.com/2017/0...-some-in-town/

Also taking real events that happens black circles like the Boston Miracle and Dj Simmonds’ entirel life and 100% altering the narrative is pretty damn bad. That’s a whole mother level of whitewashing in order to portray a certain “culture” it’s flat out disrespectful and I think to Hollywood’s view of Boston. I can here execs saying the Patriots Day film wouldn’t work with the 5th fatality because he’s black. I mean a man died saving people and they left him out because why exactly?... I’m sure a script on the actual Boston Miracle wouldn’t get a second look. But to use the name for a cheap cliche show and disrespect all those people involved in something very serious and central to the city at the time??? Grotesque.

As much as the Rocky thing has been beat to death that’s still a real a very real albeit much much smaller part of Philly today. Because it actually still gritty and very working and lower middle class throughout. Creed did an excellent job.

Nothing in the town or departed or black mass is happening today. It’s a safe, extremely diverse city with about 12% of residents claiming Irish ancestry:

A movie depicting real life in Boston would involve tech rod originally from Minnesota, progressive lesbians in Jamaica Plain, Cape Verdean delivery guys and Dominican dembow.

So for that reason I say Gone Baby Gone, Squeeze, and Equalizer 2 are some of the most accurate depictions of Boston I’ve ever seen.
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Old 01-28-2020, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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As much as the Rocky thing has been beat to death that’s still a real a very real albeit much much smaller part of Philly today. Because it actually still gritty and very working and lower middle class throughout. Creed did an excellent job.
Creed was directed by Ryan Coogler. Another director may have instead focused on a few blocks in South Philadelphia.

Showing Boston as a working-class city would be accurate. What's inaccurate is showing it as a white working-class city.
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Old 01-28-2020, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Creed was directed by Ryan Coogler. Another director may have instead focused on a few blocks in South Philadelphia.

Showing Boston as a working-class city would be accurate. What's inaccurate is showing it as a white working-class city.

Correct. The median income of a white household in the city of Boston is 91k. Blacks and Latinos are 45k.

There’s a few working class whites blocks in remote southwestern (Readville) and southeastern (Port Norfolk) edged of the city I guess but that’s still more lower middle-middle class and virtually crime free. Far more scruffy white guys in Philly Bmore and even NYC.
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Old 01-28-2020, 03:00 PM
 
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Old 01-28-2020, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Bostons gets shot up every single year and usually the weekend is particularly bloody but it happens every single year regardless. This year year I think it was 4 shot-in fact as a kid my parents wouldn’t even let me attend. Even Cambridge’s festival got cancelled this year do to fears surround gang retaliation after Boston shootings -but it’ll be back next year.

That’s kind of emblematic of the Dc vs Boston thing. You get way more leeway/understanding from Boston-perhaps out of political/white guilt.

On Aug. 24, 2019, two men exchanged gunfire in plain view of officers at Boston’s J’ouvert Parade. Police arrested Michael Warner, 34, of Hyde Park and Atunbi Bryan, 27, of Brockton in Dorchester in connection with the shooting. Police Commissioner William G. Gross said the violence stemmed from parties before and after the event and was unrelated to the Caribbean Carnival Parade, which started about five hours after the J’ouvert Parade. Cambridge authorities said the incident sparked their concern of retaliatory violence at that city’s Caribbean parade next week.
In 2017, two men were shot — one in the foot, the other in the leg — at the Cambridge Caribbean Carnival.
On Aug. 23, 2014, Dawnn Jaffier, 26, was shot in the head when she was caught in the crossfire of two rivals with gang ties at the J’ouvert Parade in Boston. In December 2017, Keith Williams, 21, and Wesson Colas, 25, were convicted of first-degree murder in connection with the youth mentor’s killing.
In 2010, three parade watchers were shot, one of them fatally, in connection with the Boston Caribbean Carnival.
In 2008, a man police believed to be attending the carnival was found stabbed to death in a Dorchester park.
In 2007, four people were stabbed as they attended festival-related events.
On Aug. 25, 2001, Darryl Green, 28, and Branden Morris, 24, were accused of fatally shooting Terrell Gethers at Boston’s annual Caribbean Carnival. They were indicted on first-degree murder charges by a Suffolk County grand jury in June 2006.
In 1993, seven people were shot during the carnival. Police blamed feuding gangs.

Mind you, this list excludes incident in Cambridge and a plethora of small fights/stabbings/shots fired calls.

Cambridge:

At last year's carnival, two separate shootings resulted in two people sustaining non-life-threatening injuries after a 23-year-old Dorchester man opened fire among thousands of people. Two people were injured by the gunfire -- a 20-year-old Dorchester man was hit in the foot and thigh, and a 43-year-old Waltham man was hit in the thigh from a ricocheting bullet.

Just 30 minutes later, at approximately 5:19 p.m., several gunshots were fired in the area of River and William streets in Cambridgeport, not far from the first incident. No one was injured, but bullets hit two homes.

At the 2016 carnival, a 15-person brawl broke out in which a woman's face was slashed. In 2015, an unidentified suspect fired three shots on Portland Street, just two blocks from the heart of the carnival. One of the bullets struck a Roxbury woman's leg, sending her to the hospital. Just one hour after that shooting, several fights broke out near the main stage among a large crowd of people, leading to the arrests of at least two people.
Yup. The city got rid of Georgia Avenue day as well after a similar incident happened.
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Old 01-28-2020, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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We used to have a West Indian festival every summer, until it got destiny buy locals who decided that they wanted to shoot up the place. Hence the city got rid of it.
The DC Carnival Committee was hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. The city didn't get rid of it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...N9S_story.html
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Old 01-28-2020, 05:01 PM
 
Location: MD -> NoMa DC
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The DC Carnival Committee was hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. The city didn't get rid of it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...N9S_story.html
Interesting, always thought the opposite for a while.
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Old 01-28-2020, 05:03 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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The DC Carnival Committee was hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. The city didn't get rid of it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...N9S_story.html
They still do an annual West Indian/Caribbean festival in DC though. It’s just nothing to the scale of the original parade format which was DC’s version of Eastern Parkway parade in BK. I think what they do now is in a park in much smaller format.
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Old 01-29-2020, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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As much as the Rocky thing has been beat to death that’s still a real a very real albeit much much smaller part of Philly today. Because it actually still gritty and very working and lower middle class throughout. Creed did an excellent job.
Philly still certainly retains much of its working-class/blue-collar character to this day relative to Boston, but it too hasn't been immune to changing racial/socioeconomic demographics resulting from gentrification or broader American racial shifts (i.e., the much faster population growth of Hispanics and Asians).

The city also has an underrated solid and growing middle-class (one of the few large, urban cities that can claim such these days) and has always had an upper-class niche that's essentially completely ignored/invisible in modern pop. culture depictions of the city.
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Old 01-29-2020, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Philly still certainly retains much of its working-class/blue-collar character to this day relative to Boston, but it too hasn't been immune to changing racial/socioeconomic demographics resulting from gentrification or broader American racial shifts (i.e., the much faster population growth of Hispanics and Asians).

The city also has an underrated solid and growing middle class (one of the few large, urban cities that can claim such these days) and has always had an upper-class niche that's essentially completely ignored/invisible in modern pop. culture depictions of the city.
agree with all this-ive seen it
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