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The mountains are far into the distance. The only real scenery to look at outside of developed areas is brown, semi-arid scrubland. So many people seem to rave about the beauty of Denver, but I just do not understand.
The mountains are far into the distance. The only real scenery to look at outside of developed areas is brown, semi-arid scrubland. So many people seem to rave about the beauty of Denver, but I just do not understand.
Here's the thing with Denver, there's western edge suburbs / satellite cities like Roxborough Park or Evergreen that are really scenic and probably have some of the better views in the entire US. Then going east, you are firmly out on the plains, but the views are actually pretty good because you're higher up and can see much further. On the other hand, central Denver is in a bowl that is very paved over. There's been some days this winter after the snow cleans out the air where the mountains really pop, but they would look better if there wasn't a perpetual brown stink cloud.
I'm increasingly surprised that Denver, and really the whole state of Colorado now is so darn expensive in price per square foot for housing that virtually anywhere else besides the mega coastal cities is cheaper, significantly. It's more overvalued and overrated than the other cities in this thread, which seem to be about on par with expectations.
Minnesota people are proud of their state. It has really has a good track record and the stats point to it. To me, it's more Minnesotans wondering why the other states have such crappy credit scores and scandals rather than thinking their state is some sort of promised land. If Minneapolis is stuck up, it's the exception to the rest of the state, which is not self aggrandizing.
I haven't been to Portland, but I did like the vibe and people of southern Oregon, and if Portland is like that, that's definitely a plus.
The notion that Baltimore’s economic stability is rooted in its proximity to DC is a bit over played on here. There’s data available from the Bureau of Labor Statistics showing Metro Baltimore carrying the state’s economy in terms of job growth. The DC Metro as a whole is much larger and it’s true that it’s economy is growing a pretty rapid clip. People however, tend to generalize and overlook the facts.
What are the facts? Job growth in Metro DC is heavily concentrated in NOVA. Growth in DC proper is steady. The Maryland suburbs of DC though are essentially stagnating in terms of job growth. Metro Baltimore is completely blowing the Maryland DC suburbs out of the water in terms of job growth.
Metro Baltimore is completely blowing the Maryland DC suburbs out of the water in terms of job growth.
Montgomery and PG Counties have lagged NoVA for 40 years, but even then Montgomery has 2x as much office space as Baltimore City. It's still the economic engine for Maryland, even if it's not a very powerful one.
The northern 2/3rds of metro Baltimore - Balt City + County, Harford and Carroll Counties are barely growing 0.1% per year. The largest employer in the Baltimore Metro area is the NSA complex at Fort Meade, which is literally one mile away from being in the DC Metro area. Baltimore very much depends on DC for access to high paying jobs.
Tyson's Corner has more office space than DT Baltimore and it leases for about $10 more a foot. You can't give away Class A space in Baltimore City right now. Companies don't want their employees cars squeegeed in the morning, and the city doesn't understand economic development.
Montgomery and PG Counties have lagged NoVA for 40 years, but even then Montgomery has 2x as much office space as Baltimore City. It's still the economic engine for Maryland, even if it's not a very powerful one.
The northern 2/3rds of metro Baltimore - Balt City + County, Harford and Carroll Counties are barely growing 0.1% per year. The largest employer in the Baltimore Metro area is the NSA complex at Fort Meade, which is literally one mile away from being in the DC Metro area. Baltimore very much depends on DC for access to high paying jobs.
Tyson's Corner has more office space than DT Baltimore and it leases for about $10 more a foot. You can't give away Class A space in Baltimore City right now. Companies don't want their employees cars squeegeed in the morning, and the city doesn't understand economic development.
Yes. Google recent headlines. There have been a flurry of recent headlines about it because after a recent squeegee-turned-assault incident that got the ear of the mayor’s office via a viral Facebook post (man threatening not to shop/patronize downtown anymore, and many others agreeing), they are trying to actually prevent it. Although it has apparently still been going on.
-Downtown/Architecture - Minneapolis/St. Paul or Baltimore
-Education - Baltimore or Minneapolis/St. Paul
-Diversity - It depends. Baltimore is very diverse, but then again Minneapolis/St. Paul have the largest Somali population outside of Somalia and the largest Hmong population outside of Laos.
-Safety/Crime - Portland, Denver or Minneapolis/St. Paul
-Scenery/Outdoors Activities - Hmm...they all have widely different, great things to offer. I would put Denver, Portland, Minneapolis/St Paul as a tie.
-CoL - Minneapolis/St. Paul
-Culture - Really depend on what is meant by "culture"
-Economy/Job Market - Denver or Minneapolis/St. Paul
-Food - Another difficult one -- they each offer widely different kinds of cuisine
-Entertainment/Things to do - Hmm...pretty much equal
-Transportation - Denver or Minneapolis/St. Paul
-Suburbs - Minneapolis/St. Paul or Baltimore
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