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Old 03-26-2020, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Green Country
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I think this is physically impossible.

Boston’s MSA is hemmed in on all sides by Providence, Worcester, Nashua/Manchester, and Portland. Land would need to be removed from those other 4 MSAs to increase the size of Boston’s, and I don’t see that happening. In the case of Worcester and Nashua, you’d pretty much need to totally dissolve their MSAs in order to add their territory to Boston’s. That or re-draw county lines and/or state borders (lol as if).
A lot of those counties are already in the Boston CSA and have 15% commuter interchange. Is it really impossible for that to go to 25% when lack of affordability is a major issue and these counties offer much lower cost of housing?
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Old 03-26-2020, 01:19 PM
 
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Population estimates of the top 100 MSAs as of July 1, 2019:


1. New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA, 19,216,182

2. Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim, CA, 13,214,799

3. Chicago-Naperville-Elgin, IL-IN-WI, 9,458,539

4. Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX, 7,573,136

5. Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land, TX, 7,066,141

6. Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV, 6,280,487

7. Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL, 6,166,488

8. Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD, 6,102,434

9. Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Alpharetta, GA, 6,020,364

10. Phoenix-Mesa-Chandler, AZ, 4,948,203
Atlanta MSA inches closer to overtaking Philly and if the trends continue in 5 to 7 years I see Atlanta becoming the 6th biggest metro area sitting behind Dallas and Houston and overtaking DC, Miami and Philly..
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Old 03-26-2020, 01:20 PM
 
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A lot of those counties are already in the Boston CSA and have 15% commuter interchange. Is it really impossible for that to go to 25% when lack of affordability is a major issue and these counties offer much lower cost of housing?
It would have to in addition to hit 25% it would have to surpass Providence to steal Bristol County from it.

Considering the NECTA division of Bristol County I think Boston is pretty far from nabbing Bristol County.

Same with NECTA division of Worcester County.
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Old 03-26-2020, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Green Country
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It would have to in addition to hit 25% it would have to surpass Providence to steal Bristol County from it.

Considering the NECTA division of Bristol County I think Boston is pretty far from nabbing Bristol County.

Same with NECTA division of Worcester County.
Yeah, it would start with the New Hampshire counties imo, and Boston has been slowly roping them in. Heck, Manchester's airport is practically empty these days after 2 decades of yearly declines.

Commuter rail to NH would do wonders.
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Old 03-26-2020, 01:26 PM
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Location: Closer than you think!
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Nice! Peoria, IL crossed 400k, and it surpassed Anchorage and Shreveport at that. I had the impression that those two metros were over 500k. Anywho, that's a decent leap in just one year, considering 2018 estimate 368k (after a decline of 11,000 since 2010) according to censusreporter dot org. Rockford would have already been well above that threshold, if only adjacent Janesville-Beloit WI area was combined, placing it right at 500k.
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Atlanta MSA inches closer to overtaking Philly and if the trends continue in 5 to 7 years I see Atlanta becoming the 6th biggest metro area sitting behind Dallas and Houston and overtaking DC, Miami and Philly..
Atlanta will surpass both Miami and Philadelphia easily. However, if we go into a recession, it will take much longer to pass DC.

Also, I'm surprised that Miami grew less than 25K. The biggest shocker on the list.
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Old 03-26-2020, 01:27 PM
 
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Top 5 numerical growth for large MSAs from July 1st 2018 to July 1st 2019

1. Dallas 117380
2. Phoenix 98994
3. Houston 89994
4. Atlanta 75061
5. Washington DC 32646
The top 5 list is pretty much unchanged since 2015 and I expect the trend to continue for the foreseeable future..

Dallas, Houston and Atlanta are currently in adolescence and are all set to become the next big boys in 25 to 30 years..

Phoenix is a few years behind but is catching up quickly..
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Old 03-26-2020, 01:29 PM
 
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Also, I'm surprised that Miami grew less than 25K. The biggest shocker on the list.
Definitely has to do with less immigration..
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Old 03-26-2020, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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Definitely has to do with less immigration..
Some immigrants who enter the US in Miami also subsequently move on to other parts of Florida, or to other major cities like Atlanta and Charlotte that offer better job markets or a lower cost of living, or both. There is a very substantial population of Latin American heritage in this area who moved up from South Florida.
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Old 03-26-2020, 01:39 PM
 
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The top 5 list is pretty much unchanged since 2015 and I expect the trend to continue for the foreseeable future..

Dallas, Houston and Atlanta are currently in adolescence and are all set to become the next big boys in 25 to 30 years..

Phoenix is a few years behind but is catching up quickly..
Roger that, "The South Will Rise Again" , but this time in a good sense..
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Old 03-26-2020, 01:46 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Atlanta MSA inches closer to overtaking Philly and if the trends continue in 5 to 7 years I see Atlanta becoming the 6th biggest metro area sitting behind Dallas and Houston and overtaking DC, Miami and Philly..
It will be interesting to watch. Atlanta is certainly growing strong. Miami I don't think will surpass DC for various reasons, but mainly that DC has a lot surrounding it that may become part of it's MSA one day that today is not. A lot could change with these growth patterns in the latter part of this decade. I fully expect an immigration curve and rise to take place at some point in which the top MSA's for immigrant growth would be NY, Miami, LA, DC, and Houston.

Dark horse down the line will be Phoenix in a 20-30 year stretch. I think it will numerically continue to out grow Atlanta and may challenge it's place although still far behind right now. Phoenix will not stay at #10 though.
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