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Old 03-17-2020, 09:52 AM
 
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Very interested in Erie, Onandaga and Monroe with the massive loss NYS had in the last estimate.

I think the Buffalo Rising people are in for a shock. Unless NYC got hammered
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Old 03-17-2020, 10:16 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Very interested in Erie, Onandaga and Monroe with the massive loss NYS had in the last estimate.

I think the Buffalo Rising people are in for a shock. Unless NYC got hammered
Agreed. I think that the there are going to be a lot of disappointed folks in rust belt cities that desperately want to see their cities regain some of their lost prominence.
I also wonder if there will be an "Atlanta surprise" this year. In case some don't remember, the city of Atlanta was highly overestimated in the 2000s decade, and found its 2010 Census number some 121,000 below its 2009 estimate. I think that something similar happened to Detroit.
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Old 03-17-2020, 11:44 AM
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Agreed. I think that the there are going to be a lot of disappointed folks in rust belt cities that desperately want to see their cities regain some of their lost prominence.
I also wonder if there will be an "Atlanta surprise" this year. In case some don't remember, the city of Atlanta was highly overestimated in the 2000s decade, and found its 2010 Census number some 121,000 below its 2009 estimate. I think that something similar happened to Detroit.
If there's an Atlanta surprise, it would most-likely be an underestimation despite your wishes.
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Old 03-17-2020, 02:01 PM
 
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If there's an Atlanta surprise, it would most-likely be an underestimation despite your wishes.
Are you thinking that I hope Atlanta's population has again been over-predicted? If so, that's not true. I put it in quotes for that very reason.
I am simply asking if there are going to be some examples of way over-predicted populations like there were last Census, and Atlanta was the poster child of that in 2010.
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Old 03-17-2020, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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That's a very interesting question to me. Thanks for putting it out there!
For a Micropolitan area to graduate to Metropolitan area, it must have one core urbanized area of at least 50,000 people. I don't know which ones are coming close to satisfying that requirement, but I'd suppose that they are likely on the far edges of fast growing metro areas.
Cookeville, TN is an interesting case.The Cookeville metropolitan area is 111,000 with the central city being only 30,000. Nashville takes another 20,000 away in Smith County, but that makes since considering many work in Murfreesboro and Lebanon.
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Old 03-17-2020, 02:21 PM
 
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If there's an Atlanta surprise, it would most-likely be an underestimation despite your wishes.
I think due to the concave nature of population growth I think overestimates are by and large more likely.
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Old 03-17-2020, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Shelby County, Tennessee
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Census Estimates: Stuff of St Louis and Detroit's Nightmares
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Old 03-17-2020, 03:20 PM
 
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Cookeville, TN is an interesting case.The Cookeville metropolitan area is 111,000 with the central city being only 30,000. Nashville takes another 20,000 away in Smith County, but that makes since considering many work in Murfreesboro and Lebanon.
In 2010 Cookeville's population was 30,000 but its urban cluster population was 44,207. The latest city population estimate is just under 35,000, almost all of it from new housing (not annexation). It's been growing at a healthy clip but especially the last few years when its micropolitan population was among the top 10 highest gaining in the country for 2017 and 2018. It'll be close, but I think Cookeville's urban cluster population will top 50,000 after this next census which will make it Tennessee's newest MSA.

Beaufort SC, Bozeman MT, Roswell NM, and Stillwater OK are other micropolitan areas I could see crossing the MSA threshold after this census.
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Old 03-17-2020, 03:34 PM
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I think due to the concave nature of population growth I think overestimates are by and large more likely.
Depends, but as we saw with Houston and DC last census, if I recall, certain areas could face underestimates. I'm willing to bet that Atlanta's MSA population was miscounted last census by a nice margin. I'd take a wager that metro Atlanta will be around 6.1 million in 2020.
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Old 03-17-2020, 03:43 PM
 
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In 2010 Cookeville's population was 30,000 but its urban cluster population was 44,207. The latest city population estimate is just under 35,000, almost all of it from new housing (not annexation). It's been growing at a healthy clip but especially the last few years when its micropolitan population was among the top 10 highest gaining in the country for 2017 and 2018. It'll be close, but I think Cookeville's urban cluster population will top 50,000 after this next census which will make it Tennessee's newest MSA.

Beaufort SC, Bozeman MT, Roswell NM, and Stillwater OK are other micropolitan areas I could see crossing the MSA threshold after this census.
I thought that estimate sounded outdated for Cookeville. If the new estimates come through with positive results, I see Cookeville moving into the top 20 by city population. It is tough to tell about the next 5 cities though. What are your new top 20 cities by population for TN?
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