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Old 04-02-2020, 08:06 AM
 
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I'm with you on the doom and gloom, Houston will have challenges with climate change as will every other city in the world. There's no place on earth to escape it, hence the name...



downtown Boston is 16' above sea level
Manhattan is about 16' above sea level as well
Philadelphia is around 30'
San Diego is around 33'
The mall in DC is only 15' above sea level
Yeah, I have been hearing since I was a kid that:

Houston is going to run out of water- Central and West Texas have issues with water, Houston reservoirs don't get affected as much.

Houston will be under water if rising sea levels continue. Well so will most major coastal cities, and Miami, DC, NY, Boston... Will be under water before Houston.

Houston is sinking. Certain parts are dropping because of well water use and over concreting that prevents replenishing of ground water. Remediation is underway via the use of reservoirs and porous concrete.

Houston economy is unsustainable because oil is unsustainable. Well FYI oil and energy are not the same. And although the economy is too heavily based on energy, it is not simply oil based. Furthermore, this is not the 1980's Houston. The economy itself has diversified greatly. This oil crisis is hurting west Texas more than South East Texas. This crisis may actually benefit Houston in the long run as companies consolidate as things get tougher.

Houston is not urban enough. Well, according to the census estimates the majority of domestic immigrants are not flocking to the more urban portions of cities. Suburban growth, like it or not, is still King.

What gets me is that everyone is predicting doom and gloom for Houston when the entire country is hurting. 10 million in unemployment Nationwide, not just Houston. Every sector of the nation's economy is affected yet I don't hear people talking about other sectors as much as they predict doom and gloom for Houston.

Not saying that Houston is unsinkable, what I'm saying is that other cities are in the same boat.
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Old 04-02-2020, 08:17 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Originally Posted by locolife View Post
I'm with you on the doom and gloom, Houston will have challenges with climate change as will every other city in the world. There's no place on earth to escape it, hence the name...



downtown Boston is 16' above sea level
Manhattan is about 16' above sea level as well
Philadelphia is around 30'
San Diego is around 33'
The mall in DC is only 15' above sea level
Thankfully the mall in DC is not a residential area. Even with rising sea level estimates much of DC's residential areas would only see minimal affects, only with a bit along the Anacostia river and Alexandria VA seeing the most of it going forward.
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Old 04-02-2020, 08:19 AM
 
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Yeah, I have been hearing since I was a kid that:

Houston is going to run out of water- Central and West Texas have issues with water, Houston reservoirs don't get affected as much.

Houston will be under water if rising sea levels continue. Well so will most major coastal cities, and Miami, DC, NY, Boston... Will be under water before Houston.

Houston is sinking. Certain parts are dropping because of well water use and over concreting that prevents replenishing of ground water. Remediation is underway via the use of reservoirs and porous concrete.

Houston economy is unsustainable because oil is unsustainable. Well FYI oil and energy are not the same. And although the economy is too heavily based on energy, it is not simply oil based. Furthermore, this is not the 1980's Houston. The economy itself has diversified greatly. This oil crisis is hurting west Texas more than South East Texas. This crisis may actually benefit Houston in the long run as companies consolidate as things get tougher.

Houston is not urban enough. Well, according to the census estimates the majority of domestic immigrants are not flocking to the more urban portions of cities. Suburban growth, like it or not, is still King.

What gets me is that everyone is predicting doom and gloom for Houston when the entire country is hurting. 10 million in unemployment Nationwide, not just Houston. Every sector of the nation's economy is affected yet I don't hear people talking about other sectors as much as they predict doom and gloom for Houston.

Not saying that Houston is unsinkable, what I'm saying is that other cities are in the same boat.
Amen. I'm sure the Allen Bros were told Houston was unsustainable when it flooded the same year it was founded. Yet, here we are 180 years later and Houston's still here and still thriving through all the ups and downs.

This is another down time, but the city (and the country) will be back as always.
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Old 04-02-2020, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Houston is 50-100 feet above sea level. It's about the same as San Fran. All the icecaps can melt and ask it would do is give it Beach front property. Scientist are predicting 3 get in 100 years. Give me a break.

Again this is all just doom and gloom hysterics.

Miami on the other hand is 6ft over sea level.
NY is what 30?
If all the ice caps melted global sea levels would perminantly rise 70m or ~230'

Houston along with any city within 100 miles of a coastline would be underwater lol
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Old 04-02-2020, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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The Carolinas

[South Carolina]

[Major Metropolitan Statistical Areas]
Greenville-Anderson: 920,477 (+96,365)
Columbia: 838,433 (+70,835)
Charleston-North Charleston: 802,122 (+137,515)
Myrtle Beach-Conway-North Myrtle Beach: 496,901 (+120,179)
Spartanburg: 319,785 (+35,478)
Hilton Head Island-Bluffton: 222,195 (+35,185)

[Major Combined Statistical Areas]
Greenville-Spartanburg-Anderson: 1,475,235 (+138,579)
Columbia-Orangeburg-Newberry: 963,048 (+65,441)
Myrtle Beach-Conway: 559,581 (+122,701)

[Major Counties]
Greenville: 523,542 (+72,317)
Richland: 415,759 (+31,255)
Charleston: 411,406 (+61,197)
Horry: 354,081 (+84,790)
Spartanburg: 319,785 (+35,478)

[Notes]
* Strong growth from the Myrtle Beach area
* Growth in the Columbia area slowing compared to that of Charleston and Greenville, SC's two other major cities
* Charleston county gaining on Richland county
* Charleston-North Charleston MSA surpasses 800,000 people
* Mauldin dropped from the Greenville-Anderson-Mauldin MSA, becoming just Greenville-Anderson

[North Carolina]

[Major Metropolitan Statistical Areas]
Charlotte-Concord-Gastonia: 2,636,883 (+392,923)
Raleigh-Cary: 1,390,785 (+260,295)
Greensboro-High Point: 771,851 (+48,050)
Durham-Chapel Hill: 644,367 (+80,094)
Fayetteville: 526,719 (+45,658)
Hickory-Lenoir-Morganton: 369,711 (+4,214)
Wilmington: 297,533 (+42,649)

[Major Combined Statistical Areas]
Charlotte-Concord: 2,797,636 (+395,013)
Raleigh-Durham-Cary: 2,079,687 (+339,502)
Greensboro--Winston-Salem--High Point: 1,689,151 (+99,951)
Fayetteville-Sanford-Lumberton: 854,826 (+57,327)
Asheville-Marion-Brevard: 542,821 (+39,877)

[Major Counties]
Wake: 1,111,761 (+210,768)
Mecklenburg: 1,110,356 (+190,728)
Guilford: 537,174 (+48,768)
Forsyth: 382,295 (+31,625)
Cumberland: 335,509 (+16,078)
Durham: 321,488 (+53,901)

[Notes]
* Wake county surpasses Mecklenburg county, becoming NC's most populous county
* Continued strong growth from the Charlotte and Raleigh areas
* Was the Fayetteville-Sanford-Lumberton CSA always that big? That's getting up there with Columbia's CSA and Greenville's MSA, and is larger than Charleston's MSA.
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Old 04-02-2020, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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If all the ice caps melted global sea levels would perminantly rise 70m or ~230'

Houston along with any city within 100 miles of a coastline would be underwater lol
Again as long as it isn’t within 100 years we are talking about if all the icecaps melted, I bet we would see the largest inland sea ever, it’s not like the government isn’t going to sit there and watch water slowly swallow the city, they would do everything they could to mitigate it, the Sahara is expanding due to desertification, I’m sure the 50%+ of the world that lives within 100 miles of the ocean would fund a project like that, and tons of deserts that are/were growing would become inland seas. 2 of the largest artificial lakes in the world are decades old in poverty-striken Africa and are both absolutely massive. While 70m is impossible to manage I’m sure the feet that the world is expected to get flooded would get bucketloads of money for artificial lakes thrown at it before half the world’s population abandoned their homes.
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Old 04-02-2020, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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It's pretty sad that +33,000 qualifies for #5 these days. What happened to this country? Our growth used to be so much better. We're following the European trajectory on purpose.
Was about to say this. I didn’t see what the excitement was in this thread. Was hoping someone would bring this up.
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Old 04-02-2020, 07:20 PM
 
Location: West Seattle
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Indefinite population growth is unsustainable
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Old 04-02-2020, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Indefinite population growth is unsustainable
Explain further
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Old 04-03-2020, 06:31 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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[Major Combined Statistical Areas]
Charlotte-Concord: 2,797,636 (+395,013)
Raleigh-Durham-Cary: 2,079,687 (+339,502)
Greensboro--Winston-Salem--High Point: 1,689,151 (+99,951)
Fayetteville-Sanford-Lumberton: 854,826 (+57,327)
Asheville-Marion-Brevard: 542,821 (+39,877)

[Notes]
* Wake county surpasses Mecklenburg county, becoming NC's most populous county
* Continued strong growth from the Charlotte and Raleigh areas
* Was the Fayetteville-Sanford-Lumberton CSA always that big? That's getting up there with Columbia's CSA and Greenville's MSA, and is larger than Charleston's MSA.
Harnett and Lee Counties were moved in 2018 from the Raleigh-Durham-Cary CSA to Fayetteville's, basically shifting nearly 200,000 people into it. Probably because the crowded nature core cities in central NC, the MSA and CSA boundaries have regularly shifted over the last couple of decades.
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