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Old 04-01-2020, 07:52 AM
 
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Sorry but every city has suburban areas, not sure why posting pictures of Vancouver's suddenly discredits its urban development?

Shall I post some similar areas in DC? Seattle? Boston?
Yes, except everyone of those links are strictly within the city of Vancouver, or more specifically within a 1.5 mile radius of Vancouver's downtown core. They are not the Mississaugas or Bramptons of Vancouver. For most locals, they are as close to downtown core as you can get without actually living in downtown (hence the ridiculous real estate prices in these otherwise modest looking SFH neighborhoods). If you say you live anywhere north of 12th avenue in Vancouver along Granville, Cambie, etc. - you are most definitely in the "city" in most locals' books even if you live in predominantly SFH neighborhoods.
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Old 04-01-2020, 07:59 AM
 
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This surprised me about Toronto. Just a few subway stops East of the city center leaves you in suburban SFH streets.
Toronto wasn't that large of a city until after WW2. Its prewar size is probably smaller than 20 U.S. cities.
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Old 04-01-2020, 08:45 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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With regards to this thread's OP it's pretty simple once it's broken down.

The top 6 city urban cores of the US are widely regarded as:

NYC
Chicago
SF
Philly/Boston
DC

With LA, Baltimore, and Seattle being regarded as next.

For Canada the four or 5 would be:

Montreal
Toronto
Ottawa
Vancouver
Quebec City

Mexico:

Ciudad de Mexico (DF)
Monterrey
Guadalajara
Juarez

The rest of the continent:

Santo Domingo
La Habana
Panama City
Port au Prince

Seven seems like a cherry picked number, but if picking 7 instead of 10, the top 4 in the US would make the cut automatically. NYC, Chicago, SF and either Philly or Boston. DC would make the cut for 10 in NA, but fall just outside the top 7.

With that said there's only 3 slots remaining. Obviously Mexico City makes the cut, and my opinion would be Montreal does too. This leaves only one slot left as a toss up outside the US cities between Toronto, Monterrey, Santo Domingo, Havana, as well as either Philly or Boston whichever was left out of top 4 in the US.
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Old 04-01-2020, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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With regards to this thread's OP it's pretty simple once it's broken down.

The top 6 city urban cores of the US are widely regarded as:

NYC
Chicago
SF
Philly/Boston
DC

With LA, Baltimore, and Seattle being regarded as next.

For Canada the four or 5 would be:

Montreal
Toronto
Ottawa
Vancouver
Quebec City

Mexico:

Ciudad de Mexico (DF)
Monterrey
Guadalajara
Juarez

The rest of the continent:

Santo Domingo
La Habana
Panama City
Port au Prince

Seven seems like a cherry picked number, but if picking 7 instead of 10, the top 4 in the US would make the cut automatically. NYC, Chicago, SF and either Philly or Boston. DC would make the cut for 10 in NA, but fall just outside the top 7.

With that said there's only 3 slots remaining. Obviously Mexico City makes the cut, and my opinion would be Montreal does too. This leaves only one slot left as a toss up outside the US cities between Toronto, Monterrey, Santo Domingo, Havana, as well as either Philly or Boston whichever was left out of top 4 in the US.

Baltimore is underrated so I’m glad you’re giving out its props. Urbanity stretches pretty far here, it’s never really overwhelming but even and pretty impressive.
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Old 04-01-2020, 09:00 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Baltimore is underrated so I’m glad you’re giving out its props. Urbanity stretches pretty far here, it’s never really overwhelming but even and pretty impressive.
Baltimore is very urban. It just needs to fill back in with more population growth in the future.

This list would be way more interesting at 10 honestly, as 7 is such an odd number and the continent is huge. Seeing who dukes it out for the 10th spot between all the cities being discussed the past few pages is way more interesting IMO. I think all of the USA top 6 make the top 10 cut in urban core, leaving four spots outside the country for the rest of the continent. Honestly we just need to list 15 cities and rank them.
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Old 04-01-2020, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Baltimore is underrated so I’m glad you’re giving out its props. Urbanity stretches pretty far here, it’s never really overwhelming but even and pretty impressive.
Baltimore punches way above its weight class when it comes to built urban form.

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Old 04-01-2020, 10:04 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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Going by a roughly ~22-23 square mile (roughly 60 square kilometers) Manhattan-sized core using existing "divisions" within cities, we so far have:


City | Divisions
Land Area
Population (Year)

New York City | Manhattan
22.83 sq mi
1,628,701 (2018)

Mexico City | Cuauhtémoc, Benito Juárez
22.81 sq mi | 12.53 + 10.28
917,270 | 531,831 + 385,439 (2010)

Habana | Plaza de la Revolución, Centro Habana, La Habana Vieja, Regla, Diez de Octubre, Cerro
21.6 sq mi | 5 + 2 + 2 + 3.6 + 5 + 4
821,841 | 61,631 + 158,151 + 97,984 + 44,431 + 227,293 + 132,351 (2004)

Those three are probably shoe-ins for top 7. Other ones that seem likely are Chicago and Santo Domingo. That leaves two spots left and I think the potential contenders for those remain the same as posted previously with Port-au-Prince, Toronto, San Francisco, Montreal, Guadalajara, Monterrey, Panama City, Philadelphia, Boston, and DC with the first three seeming most likely, though Port-au-Prince is an odd one because it's quite a bit less "developed" than the other cities.

Here's an interesting walking tour of a pretty urban portion of the city.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuvPEm8qLFU

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Old 04-01-2020, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Baltimore punches way above its weight class when it comes to built urban form.
As resident said it needs to fill back in. Very light on foot traffic in many areas, and terrible options for retail/shopping. Food is there though, but right now it’s a little to deserted and unsafe to give it that Bustling big city vibe. It’s downtown is kind of sad literally no shopping to speak of except a Marshall’s and an h and m a few feet from the water and some trinket type, hood bop stores ion the west side. Shopping has to be done at white marsh , Canton Crossing, Security Square or TowsonTown really
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Old 04-01-2020, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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As resident said it needs to fill back in. Very light on foot traffic in many areas, and terrible options for retail/shopping. Food is there though, but right now it’s a little to deserted and unsafe to give it that Bustling big city vibe. It’s downtown is kind of sad literally no shopping to speak of except a Marshall’s and an h and m a few feet from the water and some trinket type, hood bop stores ion the west side. Shopping has to be done at white marsh , Canton Crossing, Security Square or TowsonTown really
I'm from the area lol.

The city has food option on lock but until we have residents actively moving back in and infilling areas/gaps it's going to superficially look and feel dense.

I have hope the city, it's just going to take a lot of work
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Old 04-01-2020, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Cambridge, MA/London, UK
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As resident said it needs to fill back in. Very light on foot traffic in many areas, and terrible options for retail/shopping. Food is there though, but right now it’s a little to deserted and unsafe to give it that Bustling big city vibe. It’s downtown is kind of sad literally no shopping to speak of except a Marshall’s and an h and m a few feet from the water and some trinket type, hood bop stores ion the west side. Shopping has to be done at white marsh , Canton Crossing, Security Square or TowsonTown really
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