Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
The dense parts of Queens and Brooklyn are way, way above 20k, though.
A lot of the dense or dense-ish neighborhoods in Queens, like Astoria, are similar in density to the densest neighborhoods in Chicago and Toronto such as Gold Coast, Yonge-Church, Lakeview East, etc. Then there are other places like Rego Park which have way higher density than any of those. The dense areas in Brooklyn are even more. Of course, there are areas like Brooklyn Heights which are "less dense" but still around 25K ppsm.
A lot of the dense or dense-ish neighborhoods in Queens, like Astoria, are similar in density to the densest neighborhoods in Chicago and Toronto such as Gold Coast, Yonge-Church, Lakeview East, etc. Then there are other places like Rego Park which have way higher density than any of those. The dense areas in Brooklyn are even more. Of course, there are areas like Brooklyn Heights which are "less dense" but still around 25K ppsm.
I don't know where he/she got her info, but you can look here: Moderator cut: link removed, competitor site
Just click on the city, county, metro, state you want to view and go to "population" to see neighborhoods, tracts, and block groups by density for a particular place. I believe the data is from 2016.
A lot of the dense or dense-ish neighborhoods in Queens, like Astoria, are similar in density to the densest neighborhoods in Chicago and Toronto such as Gold Coast, Yonge-Church, Lakeview East, etc. Then there are other places like Rego Park which have way higher density than any of those. The dense areas in Brooklyn are even more. Of course, there are areas like Brooklyn Heights which are "less dense" but still around 25K ppsm.
Brooklyn Heights had a density of 63k psm in the 2010 Census. It's extremely dense for U.S. standards.
You're saying Astoria is "only" as dense as the densest parts of Chicago and Toronto. Gold Coast and East Lakeview are basically peak Chicago density.
I don't know where he/she got her info, but you can look here: Moderator cut: link removed, competitor site
Just click on the city, county, metro, state you want to view and go to "population" to see neighborhoods, tracts, and block groups by density for a particular place. I believe the data is from 2016.
For anything in the US, you need to get the data from the Census by Census Tract. For Chicago specifically, you need to then join that with the Community Area definitions from data.cityofchicago.org. Other cities like NYC have similar definitions elsewhere. I forget where to look for NYC and I'm too lazy as I have the file on my computer, but it's in an XLS or CSV online somewhere from the government.
They give the population and density by sq km, so you can derive the physical area and sq mi density from that.
Quote:
Originally Posted by NOLA101
Brooklyn Heights had a density of 63k psm in the 2010 Census. It's extremely dense for U.S. standards.
You're saying Astoria is "only" as dense as the densest parts of Chicago and Toronto. Gold Coast and East Lakeview are basically peak Chicago density.
Where did you get the density of Brooklyn Heights for that? In terms of Astoria, yeah I wouldn't say "only" if it wasn't in NYC. The fact that NYC is so dense in so many places means that it's kind of like "no big deal" density wise when you compare it to many parts of the city. When you compare it to pretty much every other city in America, you realize it would be the densest neighborhoods in 99% of cities in America and probably equally as dense as the densest neighborhoods in areas like Chicago or 99.9% of Toronto, or most of SF.
Alright, here's an attempt at the Manhattan-sized center for Panama City. I'm using corrigementos of Panama City and its enclave of San Miguelito. For Panama City, I'm taking its denser urban area as seem by the inset of this image:
Then for San Miguelito, I'm taking its contiguous chunks with the above. I'm going to skip the piece by piece breakdown as it's too long and just add up the chunks from the two places.
Panama City | Bella Vista, Betania, Calidonia, Curundú, El Chorrillo, Parque Lefevre, Pueblo Nuevo, Rio Abajo, San Felipe, San Francisco, Santa Ana; Amelia Denis de Icaza, Belisario Porras, Mateo Iturralde, Victoriano Lorenzo, Belisario FrÃas
22.2 sq mi | 16.4 + 5.8
471,040 people | 290997 + 180043
Habana | Plaza de la Revolución, Centro Habana, La Habana Vieja, Regla, Diez de Octubre, Cerro
21.6 sq mi | 5 + 2 + 2 + 3.6 + 5 + 4
821,841 people | 61,631 + 158,151 + 97,984 + 44,431 + 227,293 + 132,351 (2004)
Chicago | Near North Side, Loop, Lake View, Lincoln Park, Uptown, Edgewater, Rogers Park, Lincoln Square, North Center, Near South Side
22.7428 sq mi | 2.6948 + 1.555 + 3.12 + 3.097 + 2.319 + 1.721 + 1.845 + 2.555 + 2.044 + 1.792
568,965 people | 89,995 + 37,647 + 100,547 + 68,697 + 58,424 + 57,022 + 54,872 + 41,713 + 35,705 + 24,343 (2018)
Panama City | Bella Vista, Betania, Calidonia, Curundú, El Chorrillo, Parque Lefevre, Pueblo Nuevo, Rio Abajo, San Felipe, San Francisco, Santa Ana; Amelia Denis de Icaza, Belisario Porras, Mateo Iturralde, Victoriano Lorenzo, Belisario FrÃas
22.2 sq mi | 16.4 + 5.8
471,040 people | 290997 (2016) + 180043 (2018)
Chicago | Near North Side, Loop, Near South Side, Lake View, Lincoln Park, West Town, Near West Side
22.72 sq mi | 2.72 + 1.58 + 1.75 + 3.16 + 3.19 + 4.57 + 5.75
463,947 people | 88,893 + 35,880 + 23,620 + 100,470 + 67,710 + 84,502 + 62,872 (2017)
Also, in case anyone is looking to do so, here are some some potential avenues for making ~22-23 square mile areas contiguous with the CBD for other cities:
Other cities that might be decent top 7 contenders are Guadalajara, Monterrey, Port-au-Prince, San Francisco, Boston, DC, and Los Angeles. I think New York City, Mexico City, Havana, Chicago, and Santo Domingo are essentially shoe-ins. I haven't run more granular stats on Santo Domingo, but just how densely the city as a whole is built out and its function as a national capital makes it pretty likely.
Last edited by OyCrumbler; 04-02-2020 at 01:53 PM..
It seems correct to me. Brooklyn Heights is about as dense as a typical Manhattan residential neighborhood, so 63k sounds about right.
It's been a few years since I was there (love the area) so whatever source I was using is not accurate for that.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
