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Philadelphia | South Philly, Center City
11.77 sq mi | 9.7 + 2.07
361,782 people | 168,782 (2010) + 193,000 (2018)
Then, I did the sq. mi. and population of the following neighborhoods:
Francisville, Spring Garden, Farimount, University City, Mantua, Cobbs Creek, Northern Liberties, Fishtown, Old Kensington, East Kensington, West Kensington, Brewerytown, Strawberry Mansion, Port Richmond, Sharswood, Yorktown, Cecil B. Moore, and Callowhill.
They make for:
10.904 sq. mi.
255,250 people
Combined, that is:
22.674 sq mi
617,032
Density: 27,213.2
This number would put it just after Habana in your rankings.
Again, though, that's with many having 2010 population numbers. Hopefully we'll get a better picture of Philly in the 2020 census, since I'd be ver shocked at that density rising to near 30k. There is so much infill all around Philly since 2010.
Philly being that dense doesn't surprise me at all. Center City has solidified itself as the second most populous residential neighborhood after Midtown Manhattan.
Philly being that dense doesn't surprise me at all. Center City has solidified itself as the second most populous residential neighborhood after Midtown Manhattan.
The infill has been ridiculous this decade
Yes. Philadelphia always was a residential core. It is made up of a few neighborhoods titled Center City and a Greater CC of neighborhoods. It just had to restore more with gentrification and clearly increased previous core decreases again. Philly's downtown core was always a residential one.
Manhattan always was too. Most other cities had to grow a fully new residential base in thier cores. Sunbelt cities that were never residential had to build it and still working at it. Even a older Northern city as Chicago had a core of virtually no residents most of its existance when Philly was a populated core. Chicago pushed its official CBD north of the Loop today ofgicially recignized by the city. These areas north and one East. Had to have have created whole new residential neighborhoods.
Philly's may or may not be higher then Chicago's? Just interesting in comparisons. That Philly had the rowhousing base there and bones all along to gentrify. Chicago gets points for virtually entirely needing to build the current live-in numbers it attained. But yes it had neighborhoids in a Greater core to build upon too.
But depends on if you count just a CBD alone, or add surrounding dense neighborhoods and how you split it.
I remember seeing threads a couple years old in this forum , on a claim Philly surpassed Chicago's core population numbers and it was realized, That a Greater Core population were added of gentrified areas to claim it. Perhaps a battle is back?
Still so much depends on how you count this Greater core used, that is how we gain different numbers listed even in this thread too. What neighborhoods get added and where and what area is worthy to be neighborhoods we count to draw a score from?
Should we add University City to Philly's? Can we add Chicago's South loop to Chinatown and the West Loop past the Expressway or how far northward up the lakefront of its densest neighborhoods?
But a Manhattan, Chicago and Philly cores. Are top 3 in live in populations in the US. Still two of the cities have this where you draw the line for population? Then how you choose to claim one won a # 2 spot ovet the other then at a # 3 position on this.
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Habana | Plaza de la Revolución, Centro Habana, La Habana Vieja, Regla, Diez de Octubre, Cerro
21.6 sq mi | 5 + 2 + 2 + 3.6 + 5 + 4
821,841 people | 61,631 + 158,151 + 97,984 + 44,431 + 227,293 + 132,351 (2004)
Chicago | Near North Side, Loop, Lake View, Lincoln Park, Uptown, Edgewater, Rogers Park, Lincoln Square, North Center, Near South Side
22.7428 sq mi | 2.6948 + 1.555 + 3.12 + 3.097 + 2.319 + 1.721 + 1.845 + 2.555 + 2.044 + 1.792
568,965 people | 89,995 + 37,647 + 100,547 + 68,697 + 58,424 + 57,022 + 54,872 + 41,713 + 35,705 + 24,343 (2018)
Montreal | Ville-Marie, Le Plateau-Mont-Royal, Rosemont–La Petite-Patrie, Villeray–Saint-Michel–Parc-Extension, Outrement
23.5 sq mi | 6.4 + 3.1 + 6.1 + 6.4 + 1.5
500,567 people | 89,170 + 104,000 + 139,590 + 143,853 + 23,954
Panama City | Bella Vista, Betania, Calidonia, Curundú, El Chorrillo, Parque Lefevre, Pueblo Nuevo, Rio Abajo, San Felipe, San Francisco, Santa Ana; Amelia Denis de Icaza, Belisario Porras, Mateo Iturralde, Victoriano Lorenzo, Belisario FrÃas
22.2 sq mi | 16.4 + 5.8
471,040 people | 290997 (2016) + 180043 (2018)
Chicago | Near North Side, Loop, Near South Side, Lake View, Lincoln Park, West Town, Near West Side
22.72 sq mi | 2.72 + 1.58 + 1.75 + 3.16 + 3.19 + 4.57 + 5.75
463,947 people | 88,893 + 35,880 + 23,620 + 100,470 + 67,710 + 84,502 + 62,872 (2017)
Philadelphia | South Philly, Center City
11.77 sq mi | 9.7 + 2.07
361,782 people | 168,782 (2010) + 193,000 (2018)
Then, I did the sq. mi. and population of the following neighborhoods:
Francisville, Spring Garden, Farimount, University City, Mantua, Cobbs Creek, Northern Liberties, Fishtown, Old Kensington, East Kensington, West Kensington, Brewerytown, Strawberry Mansion, Port Richmond, Sharswood, Yorktown, Cecil B. Moore, and Callowhill.
They make for:
10.904 sq. mi.
255,250 people
Combined, that is:
22.674 sq mi
617,032
Density: 27,213.2
This number would put it just after Habana in your rankings.
Again, though, that's with many having 2010 population numbers. Hopefully we'll get a better picture of Philly in the 2020 census, since I'd be ver shocked at that density rising to near 30k. There is so much infill all around Philly since 2010.
Nice, can you post a link that has the neighborhoods with their land areas and populations?
Toronto was a bit of a late bloomer as a really big city in the eastern half of North America.
As a result even the most central areas of the inner city, where the streets haven't been taken over by modern towers, are a lot more "airy" than in its peers. You generally have a lot less older rowhousing and much more semi-detached and even SFH in some places, often with small lawns (though many have been paved to served as parking pads) at the front and a bit of space between the structures. Instead of a solid street wall like you more often have in older residential parts of NYC, Boston, Montreal, Philadelphia, Chicago, etc.
This is the second largest and second most populous urban core in US/Canada. It's not close.
Not saying Boston is more urban than Toronto because I haven’t been to toronto..what I do know is urbanity is not measured from a plane/helicopter..Toronto absolutely wins a skyscraper competition
That looks like it drops off the urban spine into SFH, a lot quicker than Chicago!
The tree cover is deceiving, those are not necessarily SFHs.
The kicker is towards the end of the video as he starts to look north you see the skyline actually continues quite a bit beyond downtown proper with midtown and north york.
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