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Old 04-10-2020, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Medfid
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Boston doesn't though. The data is incorrect. Atlanta has 71 and Boston has 50
I’m sure you’re right, but do you have a source?
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Old 04-10-2020, 01:09 PM
 
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I’m sure you’re right, but do you have a source?
Skyscraper center
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Old 04-10-2020, 01:16 PM
 
Location: OC
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Amazing to me how tiny Seattle can hang with the big boys.
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Old 04-10-2020, 01:23 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Boston doesn't though. The data is incorrect. Atlanta has 71 and Boston has 50

Over 100 Meters

1. NY 871
2. Chicago 329
3. Miami 118
4. Houston 103
5. SF 95
6. LA 74
7. ATL 71
8. Seattle 59
9. Philly 57
10. Vegas 53
11. Boston 50
12. DFW 46
13. Denver 39
14. Minneapolis 27

Over 200 Meters

1. NY81
2. Chicago 31
3. Houston 15
4. LA 12
5. ATL 10
6. Philadelphia 7
7. Miami 7
8. DFW 7
9. SF 5
10. Minneapolis 4
11. Seattle 4
12. Boston 4
13. Denver 3
14. Vegas 0

Over 300 Meters

1. NY 12
2. Chicago 6
3. Houston 2
4. LA 2
5. SF 1
6. ATL 1
7. Philly 1
8. Miami 0


1. NY is #1 in every category
2. Chicago is #2 across the board
3. Houston is #3 in two of the categories, while Miami has more buildings on the lower end
4. LA is #4 in two categories while Miami and SF edges it out on the lower end
5. SF takes the 5th spot on both ends but in the mid range it drops to 9


Overall in terms of number of skyscrapers and height I would rank them:


1. NY
2. Chicago
3. Houston
4. LA
5. Miami
6. SF
7. ATL
8. Philly
9. Seattle
10. Dallas or Boston

I struggled with Miami. It has the numbers but not the height of LA.
I apologize to Shakeesha, I agree partially now. For its size DFW is underwhelmed and is on a lower level than Atlanta.
Good ranking.

But that poster also said they rank skylines based on architecture and size of skyline beyond just the height and # of tall buildings. That changes things a bit.

For example, Miami and Houston have several more 400-500ft buildings than San Fran, Philadelphia and Boston, but the other 3 have extremely varied styles/architecture, very old and very new buildings well harmonized and tons of shorter buildings filling in all the gaps between the slender towers, that adds to skylines. Plus when considering architecture or even the basis of this thread, I don't see any circumstance where Atlanta would be "above average" and Philadelphia and Boston "average" besides personal bias.

I think her comment was more for a different thread since this is about buildings over 300'.

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Old 04-10-2020, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Amazing to me how tiny Seattle can hang with the big boys.
I'd just add that city proper-size. Still has little to do with skycrapers. By far, most will be in its main core. There is Houston though with multiple ones as one example with skycrapers in 2. Perhaps a Atlanta if in its Midtown too. As being right next to downtown has too. They really will be eventually be one core anyway.

I just do not think Seattle is one or a bigger Chicago or smaller again SF.

Chi has one core and has every one.
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Old 04-10-2020, 01:59 PM
 
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I'd just add that city proper-size. Still has little to do with skycrapers. By far, most will be in its main core. There is Houston though with multiple ones as one example with skycrapers in 2. Perhaps a Atlanta if in its Midtown too. As being right next to downtown has too. They really will be eventually be one core anyway.

I just do not think Seattle is one or a bigger Chicago or smaller again SF.

Chi has one core and has every one.
You are right. Houston has multiple skylines but they are not that far apart from the inner core for city proper size to be a factor.
The inner loop is about 90 square miles and I dont think there are any buildings over 100M on the eastern side. So that already cuts it in half. Further I don't think there are any north of I10. Downtown, midtown, Montrose, The Medical Center, River Oaks, Upper Kirby, etc are all in the south western quadrant of the 90sq mile inner loop and Uptown is right outside of it. I doubt that the entire area is more than about 6 x 6 miles. So while the city has a massive land area with sizeable buildings all over, the majority of the 300ft plus buildings are in that inner 40sq mile area. From certain areas it looks like one massive skyline
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Old 04-10-2020, 02:29 PM
 
Location: OC
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You are right. Houston has multiple skylines but they are not that far apart from the inner core for city proper size to be a factor.
The inner loop is about 90 square miles and I dont think there are any buildings over 100M on the eastern side. So that already cuts it in half. Further I don't think there are any north of I10. Downtown, midtown, Montrose, The Medical Center, River Oaks, Upper Kirby, etc are all in the south western quadrant of the 90sq mile inner loop and Uptown is right outside of it. I doubt that the entire area is more than about 6 x 6 miles. So while the city has a massive land area with sizeable buildings all over, the majority of the 300ft plus buildings are in that inner 40sq mile area. From certain areas it looks like one massive skyline
Houston's inner loop is larger than many major cities. Sprawwwwllllllll
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Old 04-10-2020, 03:12 PM
 
Location: East Coast
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Boston doesn't though. The data is incorrect. Atlanta has 71 and Boston has 50

Over 100 Meters

1. NY 871
2. Chicago 329
3. Miami 118
4. Houston 103
5. SF 95
6. LA 74
7. ATL 71
8. Seattle 59
9. Philly 57
10. Vegas 53
11. Boston 50
12. DFW 46
13. Denver 39
14. Minneapolis 27

Over 200 Meters

1. NY81
2. Chicago 31
3. Houston 15
4. LA 12
5. ATL 10
6. Philadelphia 7
7. Miami 7
8. DFW 7
9. SF 5
10. Minneapolis 4
11. Seattle 4
12. Boston 4
13. Denver 3
14. Vegas 0

Over 300 Meters

1. NY 12
2. Chicago 6
3. Houston 2
4. LA 2
5. SF 1
6. ATL 1
7. Philly 1
8. Miami 0



1. NY is #1 in every category
2. Chicago is #2 across the board
3. Houston is #3 in two of the categories, while Miami has more buildings on the lower end
4. LA is #4 in two categories while Miami and SF edges it out on the lower end
5. SF takes the 5th spot on both ends but in the mid range it drops to 9



Overall in terms of number of skyscrapers and height I would rank them:



1. NY
2. Chicago
3. Houston
4. LA
5. Miami
6. SF
7. ATL
8. Philly
9. Seattle
10. Dallas or Boston

I struggled with Miami. It has the numbers but not the height of LA.
I apologize to Shakeesha, I agree partially now. For its size DFW is underwhelmed and is on a lower level than Atlanta.
Actually NYC has at least 17 buildings over 300 meters (984 ft) I may have forgotten a couple:

One World Trade 1782
CPT 1550
ESB 1472
111 W 57 1428
One Vandy 1401
432 Park 1396
30 HY 1268
BOA 1200
3 WTC 1079
9 DeKalb 1066 UC
53 W 53 1050
Chrysler 1046
NYT 1046
3 HB 1034 UC
35 HY 1009
One 57 1005
One Manh West 995

Chicago does have 7:

Willis 1451
Trump 1389
Vista 1191
Aon 1136
JH 1128
Franklin 1007
2 Pru 995
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Old 04-10-2020, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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You are right. Houston has multiple skylines but they are not that far apart from the inner core for city proper size to be a factor.
The inner loop is about 90 square miles and I dont think there are any buildings over 100M on the eastern side. So that already cuts it in half. Further I don't think there are any north of I10. Downtown, midtown, Montrose, The Medical Center, River Oaks, Upper Kirby, etc are all in the south western quadrant of the 90sq mile inner loop and Uptown is right outside of it. I doubt that the entire area is more than about 6 x 6 miles. So while the city has a massive land area with sizeable buildings all over, the majority of the 300ft plus buildings are in that inner 40sq mile area. From certain areas it looks like one massive skyline
You could fit DC, Baltimore, Philly, NYC (minus Staten Island) & Boston in Houston’s city limits. 40 sq. miles is still half the size of Baltimore or 85% the size of SF or Boston. There is nothing cohesive about Houston’s skyscrapers. Like LA, there clustered so you get a very sprawly feeling. Virtually any downtown on this list has larger skyline than any of Houston’s individual clusters

That beings said... Chicago has the largest singular skyline by raw numbers. Midtown alone is not larger than the entirety of Chicago so NYC “needs” Lower Manhattan, DT Brooklyn & Queens City to beat it

Miami & Boston have to deal with tiny land area and if we incorporated things like Cambridge or Miami Beach they’d have substantially more +100m buildings

Administrative limits skew the numbers
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Old 04-10-2020, 03:34 PM
 
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Houston's inner loop is larger than many major cities. Sprawwwwllllllll
Sprawl is off topic and I will not go down that road. You missed everything that I said.
Houston has 62 buildings over 100 Meters in the downtown corridor. That's more than in all of Seattle and that's just downtown Houston.

There is another 15 just 2 miles down main in the TMC.
Then there's 27 in the Uptown area. All of this in an area smaller than Seattle so let's not derail the thread with off topic conversation that has does not even correlate to the thread. The size of the inner loop has no relevance to this thread as what I mentioned was only the south west quadrant of the inner loop where 99% of the skyscrapers are. There are only 2 buildings over 100M outside the 3areas I mentioned in the SW quadrant.

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You could fit DC, Baltimore, Philly, NYC (minus Staten Island) & Boston in Houston’s city limits. 40 sq. miles is still half the size of Baltimore or 85% the size of SF or Boston. There is nothing cohesive about Houston’s skyscrapers. Like LA, there clustered so you get a very sprawly feeling. Virtually any downtown on this list has larger skyline than any of Houston’s individual clusters

That beings said... Chicago has the largest singular skyline by raw numbers. Midtown alone is not larger than the entirety of Chicago so NYC “needs” Lower Manhattan, DT Brooklyn & Queens City to beat it

Miami & Boston have to deal with tiny land area and if we incorporated things like Cambridge or Miami Beach they’d have substantially more +100m buildings

Administrative limits skew the numbers
Which cities other than Chicago and New York has more than Downtown Houston?

Again what's the point in bringing up the total area of the city when the skyscrapers occupy an area that is less than 10% of the entire city.that's a false c or relations has nothing to do with the thread.

Again you are the one skewing numbers as there are more skyscraper around downtown Houston than the city of Boston.
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