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Old 04-10-2020, 03:48 PM
 
Location: New York City
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You could fit DC, Baltimore, Philly, NYC (minus Staten Island) & Boston in Houston’s city limits. 40 sq. miles is still half the size of Baltimore or 85% the size of SF or Boston. There is nothing cohesive about Houston’s skyscrapers. Like LA, there clustered so you get a very sprawly feeling. Virtually any downtown on this list has larger skyline than any of Houston’s individual clusters

That beings said... Chicago has the largest singular skyline by raw numbers. Midtown alone is not larger than the entirety of Chicago so NYC “needs” Lower Manhattan, DT Brooklyn & Queens City to beat it

Miami & Boston have to deal with tiny land area and if we incorporated things like Cambridge or Miami Beach they’d have substantially more +100m buildings

Administrative limits skew the numbers
Wow, I thought Manhattan (all of it) had more skyscrapers than Chicago.
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Old 04-10-2020, 04:22 PM
 
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Boston doesn't though. The data is incorrect. Atlanta has 71 and Boston has 50

Over 100 Meters

1. NY 871
2. Chicago 329
3. Miami 118
4. Houston 103
5. SF 95
6. LA 74
7. ATL 71
8. Seattle 59
9. Philly 57
10. Vegas 53
11. Boston 50
12. DFW 46
13. Denver 39
14. Minneapolis 27
That data looks dated. While I know different registries report different skyscrapers numbers but it should be easy to validate existing buildings. As per emporis (they are not up to date as well), Seattle has 70 existing skyscrapers, including 6 telco towers. Atlanta as per emporis has 75 skyscrapers including 6 masts. Boston has 51. Seattle though has more under construction and planned skyscrapers.
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Old 04-10-2020, 04:25 PM
 
Location: East Coast
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Wow, I thought Manhattan (all of it) had more skyscrapers than Chicago.
NY has many more skyscrapers and buildings than Chicago. I believe that if you count the total number of high rises it’s like 6,500 to 1,300 for Chicago, but NY is a much much larger city so it really isn’t fair to compare them.
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Old 04-10-2020, 05:07 PM
 
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Wow, I thought Manhattan (all of it) had more skyscrapers than Chicago.
That post was an odd comparison
The central Chicago skyline has 323 skyscrapers while the midtown Manhattan area alone has approximately 572.

He mentions Brooklyn and Queens like they significantly affect the numbers, they do not.

In terms of skylines skyscraper center lists number of skyscrapers as :
Midtown Manhattan 572
Chicago loop area 323
San Francisco 82
Brickell area 73
Houston 62
LA 52
Philly 47
Boston 37
DTD 36
DT plus MT ATL 33

There were a few oddities such as it separated downtown and Brickell for Miami and back bay from Boston
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Old 04-10-2020, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Sprawl is off topic and I will not go down that road. You missed everything that I said.
Houston has 62 buildings over 100 Meters in the downtown corridor. That's more than in all of Seattle and that's just downtown Houston.

There is another 15 just 2 miles down main in the TMC.
Then there's 27 in the Uptown area. All of this in an area smaller than Seattle so let's not derail the thread with off topic conversation that has does not even correlate to the thread. The size of the inner loop has no relevance to this thread as what I mentioned was only the south west quadrant of the inner loop where 99% of the skyscrapers are. There are only 2 buildings over 100M outside the 3areas I mentioned in the SW quadrant.



Which cities other than Chicago and New York has more than Downtown Houston?

Again what's the point in bringing up the total area of the city when the skyscrapers occupy an area that is less than 10% of the entire city.that's a false c or relations has nothing to do with the thread.

Again you are the one skewing numbers as there are more skyscraper around downtown Houston than the city of Boston.
Houston’s Downtown corridor is orders of magnitude larger in area than Philly, SF, Miami, Boston & Seattle. All there skyscrapers can fit within a 1-2 sq mile box.

Houston is not like that. It’s clustered so while it has more skyscrapers, there is not a single Houston skyline cluster that’s larger than the the cities downtowns listed above by skyscraper count because they are not lumped into one central location.
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Old 04-10-2020, 09:28 PM
 
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If I'am being honest with total height(The cumulative height of all high rises) , it looks something like this to me.
Tier A++: NYC
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Tier A+: Chicago
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Tier A-: Houston, Los Angeles, SF
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Tier A--: Philly, Boston, Seattle, Atlanta, Dallas. . .No particular order
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Tier B++: Minneapolis, Detroit
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Old 04-10-2020, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Originally Posted by atadytic19 View Post
That post was an odd comparison
The central Chicago skyline has 323 skyscrapers while the midtown Manhattan area alone has approximately 572.

He mentions Brooklyn and Queens like they significantly affect the numbers, they do not.

In terms of skylines skyscraper center lists number of skyscrapers as :
Midtown Manhattan 572
Chicago loop area 323
San Francisco 82
Brickell area 73
Houston 62
LA 52
Philly 47
Boston 37
DTD 36
DT plus MT ATL 33

There were a few oddities such as it separated downtown and Brickell for Miami and back bay from Boston
I meant Chicago is larger than Lower Manhattan + Queens + Brooklyn by 100m count. Typo on my part, my bad

Regarding the other boroughs

Brooklyn has 43 buildings +100m
Queens has 29 buildings +100m
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Old 04-11-2020, 12:42 AM
 
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Boston doesn't though. The data is incorrect. Atlanta has 71 and Boston has 50

Over 100 Meters

1. NY 871
2. Chicago 329
3. Miami 118
4. Houston 103
5. SF 95
6. LA 74
7. ATL 71
8. Seattle 59
9. Philly 57
10. Vegas 53
11. Boston 50
12. DFW 46
13. Denver 39
14. Minneapolis 27

Over 200 Meters

1. NY81
2. Chicago 31
3. Houston 15
4. LA 12
5. ATL 10
6. Philadelphia 7
7. Miami 7
8. DFW 7
9. SF 5
10. Minneapolis 4
11. Seattle 4
12. Boston 4
13. Denver 3
14. Vegas 0

Over 300 Meters

1. NY 12
2. Chicago 6
3. Houston 2
4. LA 2
5. SF 1
6. ATL 1
7. Philly 1
8. Miami 0



1. NY is #1 in every category
2. Chicago is #2 across the board
3. Houston is #3 in two of the categories, while Miami has more buildings on the lower end
4. LA is #4 in two categories while Miami and SF edges it out on the lower end
5. SF takes the 5th spot on both ends but in the mid range it drops to 9



Overall in terms of number of skyscrapers and height I would rank them:



1. NY
2. Chicago
3. Houston
4. LA
5. Miami
6. SF
7. ATL
8. Philly
9. Seattle
10. Dallas or Boston

I struggled with Miami. It has the numbers but not the height of LA.
I apologize to Shakeesha, I agree partially now. For its size DFW is underwhelmed and is on a lower level than Atlanta.
I double-checked this against Emporis and several other lists and the numbers for Seattle are close but a little off. If you include the Rainier Square Tower (which is completed but not yet occupied due to the current crisis) then Seattle actually has 62 (not 59) skyscrapers above 100 meters and 6 (not 4) above 200 meters:

Columbia Tower
Rainier Square Tower
1201 Third Avenue
Two Union Square
Seattle Municipal Tower
F5 Tower

There are at least 16 towers over 100 meters under construction now in Seattle, although none of them are above 200 meters.

Bellevue just across the water has 8 skycrapers over 100 meters, plus an addition 5 that are 97+ meters.
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Old 04-11-2020, 10:55 AM
 
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Seattle heights are odd in the core Financial District...do they count from the uphill side or the downhill side? That would probably change F5's status. The main door is on the uphill side.

The Columbia Center (its actual name, no "tower") is counted by some from the uphill side because that's the plaza and largest physical entry. But the downhill side has the busiest entrance -- that's where most of the transit is, plus the food court and the tourist view level elevators.

Rainier Square is under construction btw.
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Old 04-11-2020, 11:42 AM
 
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Boston doesn't though. The data is incorrect. Atlanta has 71 and Boston has 50

Over 100 Meters

1. NY 871
2. Chicago 329
3. Miami 118
4. Houston 103
5. SF 95
6. LA 74
7. ATL 71
8. Seattle 59
9. Philly 57
10. Vegas 53
11. Boston 50
12. DFW 46
13. Denver 39
14. Minneapolis 27
Minneapolis looks low. Also San Diego, with ~34-35, is missing.
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