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Old 04-18-2020, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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So does Manhattan.
After the last comment from that poster, this is pointless. Also, the links that were posted of Boston on the first page don’t even look taller than L Street in DC that I posted. It’s a waste of time.
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Old 04-18-2020, 10:50 AM
 
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You know there are very few avenues cutting across the city right? Are you really focusing on only 3 avenues including Connecticut Avenue, New Hampshire, and Rhode Island Avenue to say DC has 6 lane streets?
This is K Street. Flanked by high rises by so damn wide doesn’t feel canyon like

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_St...f_K_Street.JPG
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Old 04-18-2020, 10:52 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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After the last comment from that poster, this is pointless. Also, the links that poster had of Boston on the first page don’t even look taller than L Street in DC that I posted. It’s a waste of time.
I noticed that. Boston certainly has a street wall, and some urban canyons. But blocks away from those original posts in DT Boston there were 4 story buildings, fronting the street with a skyscraper behind it tucked away in the background.

There aren't four story buildings in DT DC. I don't know of any city not named NYC or Chicago, that keeps this level of consistency with "high rise" 12+ story buildings continuously in all four directions for eons:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9037...7i13312!8i6656
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Old 04-18-2020, 10:56 AM
 
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I noticed that. Boston certainly has a street wall, and some urban canyons. But blocks away from those original posts in DT Boston there were 4 story buildings, fronting the street with a skyscraper behind it tucked away in the background.

There aren't four story buildings in DT DC. I don't know of any city not named NYC or Chicago, that keeps this level of consistency with "high rise" 12+ story buildings continuously in all four directions for eons:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9037...7i13312!8i6656
You make this argument in every thread...we get it...continuous downtown stretches of buildings that are the same height dc has in abundance..maybe it wins a contest on paper but is not architecturally impressive Nor aesthetically pleasing...San Fran should be up there as it has man made (buildings) and naturally created canyons (hills)
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Old 04-18-2020, 11:00 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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This is K Street. Flanked by high rises by so damn wide doesn’t feel canyon like

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_St...f_K_Street.JPG
You picking on K street is pointless. It's like me pointlessly picking this corner in DT Boston. These aren't high rise buildings in the foreground, thin streets or not.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3612...7i16384!8i8192

What's your point?

You probably know very well that K street literally is the widest avenue in the entire city, but yet feel the need to remind C-D that .

The majority of downtown DC is not as wide as K street.
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Old 04-18-2020, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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I noticed that. Boston certainly has a street wall, and some urban canyons. But blocks away from those original posts in DT Boston there were 4 story buildings, fronting the street with a skyscraper behind it tucked away in the background.

There aren't four story buildings in DT DC. I don't know of any city not named NYC or Chicago, that keeps this level of consistency with "high rise" 12+ story buildings continuously in all four directions for eons:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9037...7i13312!8i6656
That’s because there aren’t any. They don’t have the available land to get there. They can only build vertical. DC benefits in this aspect because of urban renewal. We are in the process of doubling the size of downtown right now between Mt. Vernon Triangle, Northwest One, Union Market, and NOMA. We are also building a second downtown in Capital Riverfront, Buzzard Point, The Wharf, and Waterfront Station which will have census tracts over 100k people per sq. mile joining a very rare group of cities in the U.S. to have such.

The bottom line is none of this would be possible without a blank slate because of urban renewal.

https://images.app.goo.gl/MbY4aV9qTzJxaGGp6

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Old 04-18-2020, 11:06 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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You make this argument in every thread...we get it...continuous downtown stretches of buildings that are the same height dc has in abundance..maybe it wins a contest on paper but is not architecturally impressive Nor aesthetically pleasing...San Fran should be up there as it has man made (buildings) and naturally created canyons (hills)
Cool. But that is subjective.
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Old 04-18-2020, 11:16 AM
 
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I noticed that. Boston certainly has a street wall, and some urban canyons. But blocks away from those original posts in DT Boston there were 4 story buildings, fronting the street with a skyscraper behind it tucked away in the background.

There aren't four story buildings in DT DC. I don't know of any city not named NYC or Chicago, that keeps this level of consistency with "high rise" 12+ story buildings continuously in all four directions for eons:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9037...7i13312!8i6656
This is what makes Boston lose this thread to other cities but adds to its uniqueness..Boston is awesome because of the mix of old and new...

Millennium tower and park st church
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/M7A8TA/mil...red-M7A8TA.jpg

One dalton into south end brownstones

https://www.assaabloyglobalsolutions...20/BCB_174.jpg

North end into downtown
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._End_Parks.jpg

Hancock tower in Copley square ...
https://pcfandtypecodewebstuff.s3.am...-1600x1600.jpg
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Old 04-18-2020, 11:18 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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This is what makes Boston lose this thread to other cities but adds to its uniqueness..Boston is awesome because of the mix of old and new...

Millennium tower and park st church
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/M7A8TA/mil...red-M7A8TA.jpg

One dalton into south end brownstones

https://www.assaabloyglobalsolutions...20/BCB_174.jpg

North end into downtown
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._End_Parks.jpg
I agree with you that it is very unique.
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Old 04-18-2020, 11:25 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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That’s because there aren’t any. They don’t have the available land to get there. They can only build up. DC benefits in this aspect because of urban renewal. We are in the process of doubling the size of downtown right now between Mt. Vernon Triangle, Northwest One, Union Market, and NOMA. We are also building a second downtown in Capital Riverfront, Buzzard Point, The Wharf, and Waterfront Station which will have census tracts over 100k per sq. mile joining a very rare group of cities in the U.S. to have such.

The bottom line is none of this would be possible without a blank slate because of urban renewal.

https://images.app.goo.gl/MbY4aV9qTzJxaGGp6
These cities each have their unique reasoning as to why they are built out the way they are now. The clean slate helped DC expand it's core outward not upward into the sky. DC had no choice but to build out it's urban core to the maximum height throughout, due to the height limits. Those height limits however still meet the requirement for high rise, which is what I think confuses people.

It's also a double edge sword, because you don't get to have the 3rd largest DT in America by office space, with small streets cutting through the primary CBD like in Boston. NYC, Chicago, and DC each have a number of broad shoulders avenues that carry the large traffic flow across town, without this they couldn't sustain having the largest downtown office districts in the country. Boston does do a good job of mixing the downtown buildings in with the older residential ones though.
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