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It is mostly the same developers doing the infill projects in every city. I've seen a lot of the infill and really there is almost no difference from one city to the next. Its kind of like chain restaurants and chain stores. Now we have chain infill projects. Hanover has several projects in most of these cities. They even have multiple locations in each city. So does Alta, Pearl, and many others. Iys like having fast food chains popping up everywhere. So the projects are not much different from city to city.
In the Seattle area, most highrises apartments are by a half-dozen developers from Vancouver, often with Chinese money.
Hopefully they'll do the same as they've done in Canada...build most of the time, rather than only during the best economies.
Probably because its infill is on a much smaller scale.
This is about cities with significant growth, not cities with scattered examples.
So Detroit and KC are great examples of growth? And where did the OP mention growth as a main aspect of this thread? He/she mentioned the positive impact of infill development in the last decade, and to say Cleveland has not been significantly positively impacted by this, both downtown and in many in-city neighborhoods, including TOD, means you simply do not know Cleveland.
He could have narrowed it down to half or a third the list.
The OP cited biggest (presumably positive) 'impact' from infill development. I would think cities like KC, Cleveland and Detroit would be the cities you'd want to focus on: so-called "rust belt" down-and-out cities hemorrhaging jobs and population (esp Cleveland and Detroit) but utilizing infill development to fuel their comebacks on various levels. Why focus on cities that have already made it popularity-wise, at least?
Houston, Dallas and Atlanta all are being developed by the same companies and the same types of projects. So there isnt much difference there.
No, not the same companies. Most are only in Seattle or maybe the West Coast.
TheProf, you make a good point. But your point would be better shown five or ten years later when those seeds of rebirth have turned into a general statistical upturn, and there's more of a critical mass of infill.
Here is an interesting analysis that looked at the percent of total new construction that has occurred in the most walkable neighborhoods (e.g. where homes have been built in neighborhoods with a walk score higher than the citywide average) by city. The top cities were:
1. Philadelphia (91%)
2. Chicago (89%)
3. Cleveland (88%)
4. St Petersburg (88%)
5. Boston (85%)
6. Seattle (81%)
7. Washington DC (75%)
8. Denver (73%)
9. San Francisco (73%)
10. Dallas (62%)
Obviously we are not talking about scale or sheer amount of development here, but it is good insight into how much individual cities are investing in infill in walkable neighborhoods.
So Philly's infill (while not huge) is even more impressively located given that its walkable median is pretty high. Dallas is looking bad...38% of its new construction is in areas below the local walkable median!?
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Is there a way to make a perfect thread poll on C-D that pleases everyone? No, not really. My biggest miss was San Diego and I had intended on adding it, but shelter in place mind slip I guess. As a previous poster pointed out a lot of good urban development happened there over the decade. Unfortunately I didn't make it to downtown on my last visit in 2017 (was down for the day from LA) and only made it to the beach and Hillcrest for dinner. My only hangup for SD is the transit doesn't seem to take me to any part of the city a lot of tourists would want to go to. I used a lot of uber there. It's downtown core appears to have good density.
I thought of Detroit and Kansas City since they both have streetcar lines that have attracted new development and thought some may chime in on it as it is an interesting impact for both cities. I wasn't aware of Cleveland TOD, but that's great to see for Cleveland. Only made a brief stop there once at the West Side Market to pick up some food for the road. I definitely enjoyed it.
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Yes, Seattle is the exception
