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Subway lines that emerge to cross a bridge don't count.
Why do you say that they don’t count (serious question)? I don’t see what they are missing . They are elevated train tracks, is that not what an el is?
I don’t see how anyone can go to that part of Chinatown (especially around East Broadway) and not call that an el? It is extremely loud and impossible to ignore the constant passing trains. Not like the JMZ in LES, which is more removed from the street environment. https://www.flickr.com/photos/aatemu/31453826683/
But even if you exclude the elevated parts of the BDNQ and the JMZ, there are still Els in Upper Manhattan — and they are some of my favorite parts of the whole subway system.
Why do you say that they don’t count (serious question)? I don’t see what they are missing . They are elevated train tracks, is that not what an el is?
I don’t see how anyone can go to that part of Chinatown (especially around East Broadway) and not call that an el? It is extremely loud and impossible to ignore the constant passing trains. Not like the JMZ in LES, which is more removed from the street environment.
But even if you exclude the elevated parts of the BDNQ and the JMZ, there are still Els in Upper Manhattan — and they are some of my favorite parts of the whole subway system.
Yes, they are elevated above the ground. And elevated rail lines also cross streams. I guess I see the difference as this: A bridge exists to carry all kinds of traffic, road as well as rail, over some large body of water. A rail line that runs underground to that bridge, crosses it, then goes back underground again, doesn't strike me as the same thing as a viaduct that carries the tracks over streets or alleys and has stations along it.
Technically speaking, you're right. But we say the train's crossing the bridge, not on an el, when that's the case.
I do know of one bridge that carries only a rapid transit line over a river: the one that carries the Metro Yellow Line over the Potomac just downstream from the 14th Street Bridge between Washington and Arlington.
Edited to add: The elevated viaduct that carries the 1 train over the Manhattan Valley at 125th Street is one of the most spectacular structures on the NYC transit system.
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Why do you say that they don’t count (serious question)? I don’t see what they are missing . They are elevated train tracks, is that not what an el is?
I don’t see how anyone can go to that part of Chinatown (especially around East Broadway) and not call that an el? It is extremely loud and impossible to ignore the constant passing trains. Not like the JMZ in LES, which is more removed from the street environment.
But even if you exclude the elevated parts of the BDNQ and the JMZ, there are still Els in Upper Manhattan — and they are some of my favorite parts of the whole subway system.
San Antonio (sure, there are other river taxis in the US, but this is probably the most US one, akin to Amsterdam in a sense people can use it to explore downtown while sightseeing) https://www.google.com/search?q=san+...ef_lN-mixyGzSM
One of if not the most iconic commuter ferry systems in the US-probably the one I would use for a scenic backdrop, were I a filmmaker trying to decide.
I mean which cities Transit systems have the most association with the city. Like if you had an opening montage of establishing shots in a movie which ones would transit system first?
1. NYC Metro
2. Chicago L
3. SF Muni
4. Seattle Monorail
5. Toronto streetcars
Yes, they are elevated above the ground. And elevated rail lines also cross streams. I guess I see the difference as this: A bridge exists to carry all kinds of traffic, road as well as rail, over some large body of water. A rail line that runs underground to that bridge, crosses it, then goes back underground again, doesn't strike me as the same thing as a viaduct that carries the tracks over streets or alleys and has stations along it.
Technically speaking, you're right. But we say the train's crossing the bridge, not on an el, when that's the case.
I do know of one bridge that carries only a rapid transit line over a river: the one that carries the Metro Yellow Line over the Potomac just downstream from the 14th Street Bridge between Washington and Arlington.
Edited to add: The elevated viaduct that carries the 1 train over the Manhattan Valley at 125th Street is one of the most spectacular structures on the NYC transit system.
The A train in Queens has 2 bridges while crossing the Jamaica Bay on the way to Far Rockaway — and both bridges only carry the train line and nothing else.
The A train in Queens has 2 bridges while crossing the Jamaica Bay on the way to Far Rockaway — and both bridges only carry the train line and nothing else.
The A Far Rockaway train was originally an LIRR route until it was abandoned in the 1940s or early 50s when MTA took it over and expanded the A train over it, whose eastern branch terminates a couple blocks from LIRR's extant Far Rocakway branch.
The A train in Queens has 2 bridges while crossing the Jamaica Bay on the way to Far Rockaway — and both bridges only carry the train line and nothing else.
I've actually ridden the A to both Far Rockaway and Rockaway Park, so shame on me for forgetting about this span.
And the A is an elevated at this point. (Actually, it runs on an embankment in Queens up to the Jamaica Bay crossing, then on an elevated over the Rockaway Freeway to the two end points. All of this, IIRC, was LIRR trackage, and you can see the abandoned LIRR branch continue to the north of where the A turns off of it.
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. They are elevated train tracks, is that not what an el is?
