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I expect most people would quite easily say that Kansas City-St Louis-Des Moines to be significantly higher quality places to live and enjoy pretty much across the board. For starters, Oklahoma City and Tulsa will be more adversely affected by the oil price crash.
I expect most people would quite easily say that Kansas City-St Louis-Des Moines to be significantly higher quality places to live and enjoy pretty much across the board. For starters, Oklahoma City and Tulsa will be more adversely affected by the oil price crash.
How far is Stillwater from OKC? From I-35?
My entire experience of the Sooner State consists of a trip down that Interstate on the way from Kansas City to Dallas. (I also traveled along the stretch of historic US 66 in the Panhandle headed to KC from LA in 1980, but that was in the middle of the night.)
But there's an item I ran across in the course of my reporting on transportation infrastructure that struck me as perhaps illuminating for this discussion.
Some of you may know that for about 12-15 years now, Oklahoma Cityans (I'm told that's how they style it there; it should be "Oklahoma Citians" IMO) have voted on, and approved each time, a series of sales-tax hikes that fund a series of infrastructure, amenity and public-safety improvements. (The taxes are time-limited and sunset after a period of years. As the sunset approaches, the city draws up another list of projects and submits them to the voters for approval.) Collectively, these are known as the "Metropolitan Area Projects," or "MAPS." The Oklahoma City Streetcar, whose route is more extensive than KC's, is perhaps the highest-profile of these projects.
I found out in the course of researching the most recent MAPS round ("MAPS 4") that the whole ball got to rolling after an airline announced that it would not go ahead with its plans to build a new maintenance facility in Oklahoma City because it polled its employees and they said they absolutely didn't want to live there.
Kansas City, Des Moines, and St. Louis in every category.
Little Rock does better on scenery I guess than any of the others. I like the Great Plains and the prairie so I like the others just as much.
Crime isn’t mentioned. They’re all pretty bad for that, but Des Moines and OKC have the better stats.
My entire experience of the Sooner State consists of a trip down that Interstate on the way from Kansas City to Dallas. (I also traveled along the stretch of historic US 66 in the Panhandle headed to KC from LA in 1980, but that was in the middle of the night.)
But there's an item I ran across in the course of my reporting on transportation infrastructure that struck me as perhaps illuminating for this discussion.
Some of you may know that for about 12-15 years now, Oklahoma Cityans (I'm told that's how they style it there; it should be "Oklahoma Citians" IMO) have voted on, and approved each time, a series of sales-tax hikes that fund a series of infrastructure, amenity and public-safety improvements. (The taxes are time-limited and sunset after a period of years. As the sunset approaches, the city draws up another list of projects and submits them to the voters for approval.) Collectively, these are known as the "Metropolitan Area Projects," or "MAPS." The Oklahoma City Streetcar, whose route is more extensive than KC's, is perhaps the highest-profile of these projects.
I found out in the course of researching the most recent MAPS round ("MAPS 4") that the whole ball got to rolling after an airline announced that it would not go ahead with its plans to build a new maintenance facility in Oklahoma City because it polled its employees and they said they absolutely didn't want to live there.
I wouldn't bundle the two cities together. Tulsa is a lot greener, artsy and historic [Route 66, art deco downtown]. It's like a smaller Atlanta.
Oklahoma City is like a smaller Dallas, growing quickly, and culturally more Western.
I prefer Tulsa far more. Then again, I grew up there and only left because I got tired of living in a right-wing hellhole of a state.
If Tulsa were in a different state, it'd be booming right now. It has a great arts scene, music scene and even a new municipal park that's getting rave review [google A Gathering Place]. But the state is OKC-centric and Tulsa's old money is content with stagnation.
Tulsa's a pretty cool town, and definitely the best of that bunch OK/AR bunch. It feels like a smaller Kansas City on a lot of fronts, and is similar to Des Moines in that regard. I've always thought Tulsa and Des Moines are actually very similar, in their current states of existence.
OKC seems to have that sprawling feel, not dissimilar to Dallas/Ft. Worth, but lacks much remarkable character.
St. Louis and Little Rock seem to belong to different worlds. Little Rock the definitive South, and St. Louis always feels like an eastern city that happens to be west of the Mississippi.
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