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View Poll Results: Midwestern city with most urban character?
Detroit 30 21.58%
MSP 32 23.02%
ST Louis 32 23.02%
Cincinnati 13 9.35%
Indy 4 2.88%
KCMO 3 2.16%
Cleveland 10 7.19%
Columbus 3 2.16%
Milwaukee 10 7.19%
Grand Rapids 2 1.44%
Voters: 139. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-20-2020, 11:58 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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With the current pandemic in progress, and predictions of future pandemics as bad or worse than this one, is a high "urban density" really something a city should aspire to have ? Maybe we need to take a second look at this "urban density" trend so many people seem to find so important to a higher quality of life in a city.
Maybe though among places that have handled the pandemic the best are some of the most urban and dense cities in the developed world. It seems to be a lot more about preparedness and coordinated action based on medical and scientific expertise than it is about density.
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Old 05-20-2020, 12:03 PM
 
Location: MSP
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What predictions are there of future pandemics? Not saying it wont happen, but it's been over 100 years since our last major pandemic. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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Old 05-20-2020, 12:15 PM
 
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The one thing that Milwaukee has that no other Midwestern city has (outside of Chicago), is it sits on a lake, that looks like an ocean. Downtown Milwaukee is on Lake Michigan. Cars are parked from all over the USA along the lake, with people out everywhere looking at the beauty. I do not exaggerate, as I see it every time I'm there. Maybe not so much in the winter, but every other season....the lakefront is loaded with sightseers. I know Cleveland is on a lake, but Milwaukee's lakefront is stunning, and a huge draw to the city. Public beaches, restaurants, coffee shops, and downtown itself.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Mi...!4d-87.9064736

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Old 05-20-2020, 12:16 PM
 
Location: La Jolla
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Detroit should be winning this easily, as it arguably rivals Chicago for influence and cultural identity historically.

At the very least, its much more of a peer to Chicago than Philly is to NYC.
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Old 05-20-2020, 12:28 PM
 
Location: MSP
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Detroit should be winning this easily, as it arguably rivals Chicago for influence and cultural identity historically.

At the very least, its much more of a peer to Chicago than Philly is to NYC.

Are influence and cultural identity the same as urban character?
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Old 05-20-2020, 12:35 PM
 
Location: La Jolla
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Are influence and cultural identity the same as urban character?
I would say yes.
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Old 05-20-2020, 12:39 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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I would say yes.
That's an awfully wide umbrella for urban character.
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Old 05-20-2020, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I really like St. Louis, Milwaukee, Detroit, and Minneapolis. All have really nice urban downtowns IMO.
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Old 05-20-2020, 12:42 PM
 
Location: La Jolla
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That's an awfully wide umbrella for urban character.
Its a vague term.


By some interpretations Cincinnati would have more urban character than Chicago.
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Old 05-20-2020, 01:06 PM
 
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With the current pandemic in progress, and predictions of future pandemics as bad or worse than this one, is a high "urban density" really something a city should aspire to have ? Maybe we need to take a second look at this "urban density" trend so many people seem to find so important to a higher quality of life in a city.
I think this thread is about more than just density, but to respond to your point - I think that's short-sighted thinking. There are other measures that can be taken to prevent/mitigate the spread of disease. Encouraging urban density is one of the most important things we can do to combat climate change, which is a huge existential threat, and has been shown to improve physical and mental health.

Not to mention, America greatly lags behind the rest of the world in terms of urbanity and density and we're still being hit pretty hard by COVID beyond NYC.

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