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Old 06-25-2020, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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NO CITY can match the same number of jazz clubs and venues they had in the 30s-60s.
That's a matter of entertainment and economic options available now.
America has been dumbed down by popular culture.

Per capita, KC has as much live jazz and artists as any other city in the US outside of NYC. The revitalization of the 18th & Vine jazz district and the American Jazz Museum has led to a renaissance of the art form. And with the advent of UMKC's jazz program under the direction of Bobby Watson, the number of artists coming to study and gig has exploded in the last 12 years. KU's Jazz Program and exploded and KCKS Community College has a significant and growing jazz program.

Before Covid, the city was buzzing with live jazz and the future of jazz looks brighter than ever in KC. With 30+ venues and restaurants featuring jazz and many others with some jazz, you can hear some of the best jazz anywhere on earth.
I replied to your statement about the Troost Wall in my other post.

I did visit the American Jazz Museum and the Negro League Baseball Museum on my most recent visit in 2018, and I did hear at the time that the Blue Room, the jazz club attached to the museum, draws good patronage. But the block of 18th Street that includes the museums and the historic Gem Theater had a Potemkin-village quality about it; some of the false fronts erected for Robert Altman's film "Kansas City" were still standing years after the film had been released, and while the historic houses in the 1800 block of Highland, where the Mutual Musicians Foundation is located, had been restored, most of the blocks around that block and the one containing The Call's offices just to its east remained empty, as they were when I wrote my Jazz District sidebar to that P&L District story in 2015.

To be fair, I saw evidence that jazz was on the rebound in KC back on a return visit in 1985, when my relatives on my Dad's side were all still living; I caught a performance at a (I think now-defunct) club on the Country Club Plaza called Starker's.

So I'm pleased to hear that the jazz scene in KC has only grown stronger since then. And you're right that nowhere, not even in New York City, which succeeded KC as the epicenter of American jazz, does jazz hold the central place in American popular music it enjoyed back in the Pendergast era. But it is enjoying a resurgence in many places (Ken Burns' documentary helped), and it's good to hear that it's flourishing again in one of the three principal cities that shaped its history (before it: New Orleans; after it: New York).
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Old 06-26-2020, 12:11 AM
 
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Can't speak on Kansas City, never been but does sound like it's worth a visit. As a Black man born and raised in Nashville, a city with 4 HBCU's in Tennessee State University, Fisk University, Meharry Medical College and the American Baptist College one would think the Black culture here would be a lot more prominent but admittedly it's not compared to a lot of places.
That is indeed quite unusual. Only Atlanta, which obviously has no shortage of Black culture, has more within the city limits but even entire metropolitan areas with three HBCUs, such as Hampton Roads, DC, and Jackson, MS, are also noticeably Blacker. And the irony is that the city's embrace of the very thing that put Nashville on the path to such rapid growth and development, country music, is one--as with all other genres that originated in America--that Blacks had a significant role in creating.
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Old 07-06-2020, 05:02 AM
 
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A friend from college lives in Nashville, and loves the city. He has mentioned his experience may differ from some, as he had connections prior to moving which made his move much easier. He also said dating for him has been easier than his sister who also lives there.
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Old 01-18-2021, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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NMAAM is now open in Nashville. The opening of the museum keeps Nashville's place in its contribution to black art and music. Hopefully this more visible promotion will help the city finally embrace more of this heritage.

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashvill...pens-tour.html
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Old 01-19-2021, 03:32 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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NMAAM is now open in Nashville. The opening of the museum keeps Nashville's place in its contribution to black art and music. Hopefully this more visible promotion will help the city finally embrace more of this heritage.

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashvill...pens-tour.html
That's very interesting, because the music I — and I think most people — associate Nashville with is country and western music, and both Charley Pride and Lil Nas X are exceptions rather than the rule. I don't think the city registers on most histories of African-American musical styles or traditions, pace the world-renowned Fisk Jubilee Singers.

Memphis. Detroit. Philadelphia. St. Louis. Kansas City. New Orleans. New York. LA. Atlanta. Even DC. But Nashville?

Maybe we'll all be in for some revelations visiting this institution.
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Old 01-19-2021, 07:30 AM
 
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That's very interesting, because the music I — and I think most people — associate Nashville with is country and western music, and both Charley Pride and Lil Nas X are exceptions rather than the rule. I don't think the city registers on most histories of African-American musical styles or traditions, pace the world-renowned Fisk Jubilee Singers.

Memphis. Detroit. Philadelphia. St. Louis. Kansas City. New Orleans. New York. LA. Atlanta. Even DC. But Nashville?

Maybe we'll all be in for some revelations visiting this institution.
There's a great write-up about the new museum in the NYT and why it belongs in Nashville: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/o...nashville.html
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Old 01-19-2021, 01:44 PM
 
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I can't speak for Kansas City, but Nashville has a big issue with racial profiling. The city doesn't have a lot of geographical segregation, but cultural segregation and racial division are present, to put it lightly.
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Old 01-19-2021, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Southern Maryland
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NMAAM is now open in Nashville. The opening of the museum keeps Nashville's place in its contribution to black art and music. Hopefully this more visible promotion will help the city finally embrace more of this heritage.

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashvill...pens-tour.html
CBS This morning yesterday did a piece about it yesterday.

https://youtu.be/C-o7DZNSx54
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Old 01-19-2021, 06:06 PM
 
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KCMO, definitely
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Old 01-20-2021, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Better is super subjective both seem okay not amazing not bad. Just regular/ with a little extra flavor (Music City/Jazz-BBQ) to keep things fun.

Outsiders perspective would be KCMO. Economically maybe it’s Nashville. I can’t imagine it’s a huge world of difference.
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