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View Poll Results: What is the best state overall? Who wins?
Maryland 43 30.71%
Virginia 87 62.14%
Tie 10 7.14%
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Old 01-25-2021, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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You VA people are hilarious. I like NOVA, but lol at the elitist attitude toward MD. They are not that different as far as suburbia. You can find comparable areas in both states.

As an urban infrastructure nerd, I do like the skyscrapers going up in Tysons etc, but it honestly looks like a horrible place to actually live. Skyscrapers mixed with strip malls, parking lots and massive wide streets does nothing for me. You can have it. If I wanted to live in suburban Houston, I would live in Tysons or anywhere in VA outside the beltway. I do like Arlington, Alexandria etc, but I also like Bethesda, Silver Spring etc.
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Old 01-25-2021, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, Maryland
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People have been saying this for the last 30 years. In fairness, prior to the Freddy Grey Riots, it was heading in a positive direction. The problem is that leadership has been the same for the last 30 years. And I'm not talking about political party; I mean, they have not been overly progressive for vitalizing the city.

The new building that went up at 414 Light street a couple of years ago, is the only substantial building (and it is less than 600 ft) that has gone up in 20 years, despite tons of impressive skyline proposals. Baltimore is the largest major city to not have a 600ft signature skyscraper. Not saying that, that is absolutely necessary, but pointing out that they have had SEVERAL proposals over the years and leadership has not been able to seal the deal.
6 of the top 20 tallest buildings in Baltimore City have been built in the past 20 years.

1. 414 Light Street (500 feet - 3rd tallest - 2018)
2. Baltimore Marriott (430 feet - 6th tallest - 2001)
3. 1 Light Street (364 feet - 11th tallest - 2018)
4. Four Seasons (352 feet - 15th tallest - 2016)
5. Exelon Tower (350 feet - tied 16th tallest - 2016)
6. Legg Mason Tower (350 feet - tied 16th tallest - 2009)

Baltimore City is no Chicago but there's really nothing that compares in VA.
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Old 01-25-2021, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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6 of the top 20 tallest buildings in Baltimore City have been built in the past 20 years.

1. 414 Light Street (500 feet - 3rd tallest - 2018)
2. Baltimore Marriott (430 feet - 6th tallest - 2001)
3. 1 Light Street (364 feet - 11th tallest - 2018)
4. Four Seasons (352 feet - 15th tallest - 2016)
5. Exelon Tower (350 feet - tied 16th tallest - 2016)
6. Legg Mason Tower (350 feet - tied 16th tallest - 2009)

Baltimore City is no Chicago but there's really nothing that compares in VA.
Right but these are tiny buildings. The Capital One Tower (470ft- 2018) in Tyson’s, smack in the middle of suburbia is almost as tall as the tallest building in the last 20 years in Baltimore. Tysons already has an approved 600 foot tower that will be taller than any building in Baltimore. So there will be “something that compares in VA†soon. For a suburban city like Tyson’s to have a larger building than a major city like Baltimore, is a little embarrassing. Baltimore probably has the smallest skyline (height wise) of any major city.
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Old 01-25-2021, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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6 of the top 20 tallest buildings in Baltimore City have been built in the past 20 years.

1. 414 Light Street (500 feet - 3rd tallest - 2018)
2. Baltimore Marriott (430 feet - 6th tallest - 2001)
3. 1 Light Street (364 feet - 11th tallest - 2018)
4. Four Seasons (352 feet - 15th tallest - 2016)
5. Exelon Tower (350 feet - tied 16th tallest - 2016)
6. Legg Mason Tower (350 feet - tied 16th tallest - 2009)

Baltimore City is no Chicago but there's really nothing that compares in VA.
Considering all the hate that Baltimore gets, there sure is a lot of cranes in the inner harbor area every year.
Baltimore may not have ten 40 story skyscrapers going up, but the skyline is growing. Most of the entire Harbor East skyline is new.

Baltimore has issues, nobody is denying that. But it's actually a great city. We often go to DC for restaurants etc, but we also go to Baltimore. Fells Point, Federal Hill, Canton etc. People that avoid Baltimore are missing out. Especially if you are stuck in a place like Tysons Corner eating at chain restaurants and pretending you are in an "urban" area just becaue there are tall buildings around and some empty metro trains passing by. EVERYBODY is in their cars. Nobody wants to walk around that area. Tysons is bland suburbia. Always will be.
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Old 01-25-2021, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, Maryland
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Right but these are tiny buildings. The Capital One Tower (470ft- 2018) in Tyson’s, smack in the middle of suburbia is almost as tall as the tallest building in the last 20 years in Baltimore. Tysons already has an approved 600 foot tower that will be taller than any building in Baltimore. So there will be “something that compares in VA†soon. For a suburban city like Tyson’s to have a larger building than a major city like Baltimore, is a little embarrassing. Baltimore probably has the smallest skyline (height wise) of any major city.
Probably has the smallest height of any major city? Lol. You’re conveniently leaving out Washington DC’s height limit which is undoubtedly a big reason why there’s any height in the VA suburbs in the first place.
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Old 01-25-2021, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Green Country
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I'm a Virginia who loves old historic cities. Which means I love Alexandria, Annapolis, Baltimore, Frederick, Hagerstown, Norfolk, Richmond, Staunton, etc. In other words, both states are beautiful!

My favorite part of the Capital Region is New River Gorge National Park. But #2 by far is the Frederick/Loudoun/Harpers Ferry corridor. So much beauty!
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Old 01-25-2021, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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1. 414 Light Street (500 feet - 3rd tallest - 2018)
2. Baltimore Marriott (430 feet - 6th tallest - 2001)
3. 1 Light Street (364 feet - 11th tallest - 2018)
4. Four Seasons (352 feet - 15th tallest - 2016)
5. Exelon Tower (350 feet - tied 16th tallest - 2016)
6. Legg Mason Tower (350 feet - tied 16th tallest - 2009)

Baltimore City is no Chicago but there's really nothing that compares in VA.
is this sarcasm?

Forget NY or Chicago, SF has 19 buildings taller than Baltimore's tallest, Seattle has 13, Austin has 8, Miami has 38, Atlanta has 11, Charlotte has 6, Philly has 12, list goes on and on. Baltimore has one of the saddest looking skylines I've ever seen. DT Baltimore has less total office space than Tyson's Corner, and it rents for much less.
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Old 01-25-2021, 11:55 PM
 
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is this sarcasm?

Forget NY or Chicago, SF has 19 buildings taller than Baltimore's tallest, Seattle has 13, Austin has 8, Miami has 38, Atlanta has 11, Charlotte has 6, Philly has 12, list goes on and on. Baltimore has one of the saddest looking skylines I've ever seen. DT Baltimore has less total office space than Tyson's Corner, and it rents for much less.
Height isn't everything and downtowns are more about office space. Baltimore has one of the best urban cores in the country; its skyline is very textured with a good bit of architectural variety and a great natural setting. It also exists within a dense, historic cityscape that allows great views looking south towards its "backside."

If this is one of the saddest skylines you've ever seen, then you should get out more:
https://www.tripsavvy.com/thmb/VfTpc...afdaa1610d.jpg
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Old 01-26-2021, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Northern California
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VA for mountain hikes. MD for everything else.
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Old 01-26-2021, 12:07 AM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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If this is one of the saddest skylines you've ever seen, then you should get out more:
https://www.tripsavvy.com/thmb/VfTpc...afdaa1610d.jpg
Sorry, it's not one of the saddest, it's actually funny that a bunch of 20-30 story buildings from the 70s and 80s qualifies as a "skyline". Not much there going anywhere near the sky. I'd also add it's Baltimore, so not much going on near the ground either, except for squeegee kids and abandoned buildings. But at least you can always make the drive up to Philly if you want to see a real skyline.
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