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but everyone I know in Chicago can't wait to leave and the numbers show that. I would say Chicago but because of that I have to say Philly..then Pittsburgh..then Chicago...then Baltimore.
I gotta get up outta Baltimore. Baltimore is priced appropriately for what it offers, maybe slightly overpriced. Coming from Boston it just no longer offers enough for me. I kinda blew through what Bmore has to offer. At this point, it's starting to feel small and a bit backward to me and it's only been 30 months.
When I visit big cities and I come back with that same realization of Baltimore. It becomes more glaring that Baltimore is doing everything completely wrong, when every other city is doing mostly everything right. As much as I love Fells Point, Fed Hill, Canton, and basically anything east of downtown and south of Monument Street and other areas of the city, with the condition of the city, and the people who inhabit it, it does feel a bit small at times. I will say, however, that I'm not even close to scratching to surface of the ethnic eateries around the city.
Chicago by far. I don't know how it's even remotely close aside from this place being completely warped. Never heard anyone (in real life) hype up Philly the way it's done here.
That's silly. You are entitled to think Chicago takes the cake. Yet your anecdotal evidence that, allegedly, you've "never heard anyone hype (in real life) hype up Philly the way it's done here" is kind of meaningless. I know plenty of people from outside here that love it and "hype it up." Just because it doesn't match your limited experience, doesn't mean it doesn't exist elsewhere.
There are many reasons why one may prefer the urbanity of Philadelphia over Chicago, and vice versa.
When I visit big cities and I come back with that same realization of Baltimore. It becomes more glaring that Baltimore is doing everything completely wrong, when every other city is doing mostly everything right. As much as I love Fells Point, Fed Hill, Canton, and basically anything east of downtown and south of Monument Street and other areas of the city, with the condition of the city, and the people who inhabit it, it does feel a bit small at times. I will say, however, that I'm not even close to scratching to surface of the ethnic eateries around the city.
*south of Baltimore. Plenty Sketchy area between Monument and Baltimore. I live in one.
Upper Fells can be kinda dangerous too. Graceland and Browning Highway aint no picnic either .
That's silly. You are entitled to think Chicago takes the cake. Yet your anecdotal evidence that, allegedly, you've "never heard anyone hype (in real life) hype up Philly the way it's done here" is kind of meaningless. I know plenty of people from outside here that love it and "hype it up." Just because it doesn't match your limited experience, doesn't mean it doesn't exist elsewhere.
There are many reasons why one may prefer the urbanity of Philadelphia over Chicago, and vice versa.
So in other words, your anecdotal evidence is more valuable than mine. Got it.
Chi and Philly both are steals considering their tiers on nationally and world renown cities. Chicago is obviously bigger and offers far more, but Philly has great location in between DC and NYC. The other two don't belong in this comparison
OP's question is vague. Everyone isn't in a 2 person household earning $100k/year like the OP. If I'm a recent college graduate or someone earning minimum wage, Philadelphia would be ranked last for me and Pittsburgh first . Philadelphia might have has the highest % of income spent on rent, and with the extraordinarily high taxes, I'd imagine it has the lowest net DPI. Philadelphia is the worst "bang for your buck" when adjusted for COL for minimum/low earners.
*south of Baltimore. Plenty Sketchy area between Monument and Baltimore. I live in one.
Upper Fells can be kinda dangerous too. Graceland and Browning Highway aint no picnic either .
Yea, it can be a little dangerous, but by Baltimore standards, it's not that bad. Lol
Upper Fells Point I think will be better eventually the projects are gonna be turn down eventually, and Johns Hopkins is expanding in every direction in that area. I'm starting to see yuppies living on and a few blocks slightly north of Monument Street.
I live in Pittsburgh and have a $401/month mortgage payment for a 2-BR home.
Make of that what you will, but with my fiance and I only earning ~$65,000 annually combined we live very comfortably here in the middle of the city and have access to some great urban amenities.
Can a working-class couple comfortably afford a house in those other cities?
I live in Pittsburgh and have a $401/month mortgage payment for a 2-BR home.
Make of that what you will, but with my fiance and I only earning ~$65,000 annually combined we live very comfortably here in the middle of the city and have access to some great urban amenities.
Can a working-class couple comfortably afford a house in those other cities?
That wasn't necessarily the question.
It's which city do you get the most value for. Which means, the most amenities, urbanity, public transit, entertainment, etc. for the least amount of money. And that answer is undeniably Chicago, with Philadelphia coming in second. The other two are cheaper and urban but simply can't compete with Chi/Phi in terms of amenities, scale, and other areas.
Yea, it can be a little dangerous, but by Baltimore standards, it's not that bad. Lol
Upper Fells Point I think will be better eventually the projects are gonna be turn down eventually, and Johns Hopkins is expanding in every direction in that area. I'm starting to see yuppies living on and a few blocks slightly north of Monument Street.
Close to JH though lol. Idk they’re not bad in terms of gun violence and blight but they have a lotta street robberies and BnE.
When I first moved to Baltimore on Highland/Leverton there were two homicides on my street within 6 months. Even had detectives at the door. Needless too say I moved a few blocks away from the “heat” still- a lotta open air prostitution on Conking Ave. more than I’ve seen anywhere else in the city. Tons of rats/trash. It’s vibrant, polices, functional, and communal though. Very convenient and cultural too. More than I can say for much of Bmore. For sure.
Lotta love for Bmore- I became a man here- but it’s not my hometown so I dont feel obligated to see it rise from the ashes. I’m sure you can feel that. Maybe my path will cross again with #BmoreBeautiful in the futureZ
It's which city do you get the most value for. Which means, the most amenities, urbanity, public transit, entertainment, etc. for the least amount of money. And that answer is undeniably Chicago, with Philadelphia coming in second. The other two are cheaper and urban but simply can't compete with Chi/Phi in terms of amenities, scale, and other areas.
Yes, but if Pittsburgh is a scaled-down Chicago at a scaled-down price point, then the real question is: "If Pittsburgh offers half the amenities and urban experiences of Chicago at less than half the price, then isn't it still a better value than Chicago?"
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