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Old 10-31-2020, 04:04 PM
 
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Somehow this thread devolved from debating walkable, commuter friendly, fun suburbs to promoting which is the most unaffordable, family-oriented, sterile suburb with access to a park and ride. No offense to any particular suburbia intended.
In all fairness, there's a lot of subjectivity in people's preference of suburbs.
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Old 10-31-2020, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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In all fairness, there's a lot of subjectivity in people's preference of suburbs.
True, but the OP also listed criteria. Anyway, it's not an issue, just interesting to see.
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Old 10-31-2020, 04:39 PM
 
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Rank these cities in order based on their suburbs.

-Chicago
-Philadelphia
-Atlanta
-Washington D.C.
-Las Vegas
-Boston
-St. Louis
-DFW
-Houston


metrics for ranking:
-Amenities
-Diversity
-QOL
-Nigh life
-COL
-Schools
-Downtown/market square
-Natural scenery
-Outdoor recreation
-Families

I know the conversation will eventually stir this way but I would like to omit the main city as being a reason why such and such suburb is ranked high. I want to rank these cities burbs based on the burbs alone just to say how they stock up against one another. Chicago would probably win off that metric alone. So I want this list based solely on their burbs.
Going by the metrics, I'd throw these places out, Chicago: Evanston

Philadelphia: Cheltenham

Atlanta: Decatur

DC: Silver Spring

Vegas: not sure

Boston: perhaps Milton

St. Louis: University City

DFW: not sure

Houston: not sure
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Old 10-31-2020, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Medfid
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Boston: perhaps Milton
Using the OP’s criteria, Milton isn’t a good choice because it lacks a downtown area and it’s far below the state average for Hispanic residents.

I think Waltham meets the OP’s criteria best in general. Moody Street is very vibrant and has a good mix of shops and restaurants. Prospect Hill and the Charles provide good outdoor recreation opportunities. The schools are fine by MA standards. Though as others have mentioned, the COL there has increased a lot over the last decade.


Edit: On second thought, Malden might be even better than Waltham as it’s more diverse, a bit cheaper, and has better-ranked schools. I think Waltham is a bit better for outdoor recreation and I like the retail diversity on Moody, but DT Malden is still pretty hopping and the city has the Middlesex Fells right there.

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Old 10-31-2020, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Going by the metrics, I'd throw these places out, Chicago: Evanston

Philadelphia: Cheltenham

Atlanta: Decatur

DC: Silver Spring

Vegas: not sure

Boston: perhaps Milton

St. Louis: University City

DFW: not sure

Houston: not sure
Cheltenham Township has a non-trivial Black population, largely found around the historic village of La Mott, named in honor of Quaker abolitionist Lucretia Mott and also home to the training grounds for Pennsylvania's Black Civil War regiment, Camp William Penn. Its schools are decent but taxes are high.

You might also include Ardmore, a census-designated place in Lower Merion and Haverford Townships, in this grouping. It's home to a Black community that dates to just after the Civil War, the oldest and largest such community on the Main Line. One of the seven members of the Lower Merion Township Board of Commissioners is Black; he represents the district that includes South Ardmore (the area in question).

Also, Cheltenham doesn't have a "downtown" or "town center" to speak of, while Ardmore definitely does; it's home to the Lower Merion Township municipal building, a concert venue and a popular brewery, all walkable from its Regional Rail station.
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Old 10-31-2020, 11:28 PM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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One of the most impressive suburbs in the US is not even mentioned here. That would be Bellevue,WA. The only suburb that matches it would be Buckhead, GA but even that isn’t fair as Buckhead is in Atlanta city limits.
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Old 11-01-2020, 12:17 AM
 
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One of the most impressive suburbs in the US is not even mentioned here. That would be Bellevue,WA. The only suburb that matches it would be Buckhead, GA but even that isn’t fair as Buckhead is in Atlanta city limits.
Atlantans use Buckhead at their will depending on how the story flows but Buckhead is not a suburb even though it looks like and functions like a suburbs of Atlanta.
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Old 11-01-2020, 12:33 AM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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Atlantans use Buckhead at their will depending on how the story flows but Buckhead is not a suburb even though it looks like and functions like a suburbs of Atlanta.
Bellevue is arguably not a suburb, either. It’s a city in its own right.
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Old 11-01-2020, 12:40 AM
 
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Bellevue is arguably not a suburb, either. It’s a city in its own right.
Bellvue is its own thing but Buckhead is in Atlanta's city borders... I know it looks like a suburb with mcmansions or an edge city of DC with the skyscrapers and parking garages but its actually within the city limits of Atlanta... remember that Atlanta is the least dense major city.

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Old 11-01-2020, 01:24 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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May I ask an inquiry? If you prefer a more tranquil life style and less tech culture then why wouldn't you move to an area that provides that on a normal day?
Because I want that lifestyle to exist here....I'm not really into moving elsewhere.
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