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View Poll Results: Most urban?
Atlanta 108 52.68%
Austin 4 1.95%
Charlotte 4 1.95%
Houston 54 26.34%
Dallas 31 15.12%
San Antonio 4 1.95%
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Old 11-21-2020, 09:19 AM
 
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Houston appears more centralized because it has such a massive land area.

If it were more like Atlanta's size or even Dallas' size, maybe not so much.

 
Old 11-21-2020, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Houston appears more centralized because it has such a massive land area.

If it were more like Atlanta's size or even Dallas' size, maybe not so much.
Ok? But it’s not, so as a result it’s centralized area is larger (particularly than Dallas). Atlanta is smaller in land area than Dallas but it’s central is also larger, so your argument isnt holding up. Houston is twice Dallas size in land mass, yes, but it’s also twicw Dallas size in population. Were Houston only twice bigger in landmass, then you’d have a point. But this isn’t the case so it’s irrelevant. That argument would be better for OKC or JAX

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Old 11-21-2020, 10:08 AM
 
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Ok? But it’s not...
Well this thread is about metro areas as a whole, so city boundaries are kind of relevant as it relates to centralization.
 
Old 11-21-2020, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Well this thread is about metro areas as a whole, so city boundaries are kind of relevant as it relates to centralization.
Right, which is why DFW gets a good case. Because it has the most urbanized suburbs. However, you don’t discount the city’s core and not include it. They’re also part of the metro. The most urbanized at that (except maybe Houston where Galveston competes).
 
Old 11-21-2020, 12:05 PM
 
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Atlanta for the most part is a hub and spoke City. DFW has many hubs. There are MULTIPLE suburbs with as much or more office space than the one with the most in ATL. In Atlanta it is mostly bedroom communities in DFW the places are big enough to function as actual cities to form a complex of cities to form the... Metroplex
This is such a uniformed and biased post
Texas city limits are huge .Even in the suburbs. In Atlanta you have cities in the suburbs like Dunwoody and Sandy Springs all on top of each other.Mostly continuous.
For instance Arlington is 99 sq miles,which is almost as big as the city of Atlan. Dunwoody is 13sq miles.Sandy Springs is 38 sq miles. Even still they are not "bedroom communities",
they like those in Dallas are edge cities.
Texas cities are just made different and Metroplex is branding.Nothing more than whats in many major cities
 
Old 11-21-2020, 12:48 PM
 
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Right, which is why DFW gets a good case. Because it has the most urbanized suburbs. However, you don’t discount the city’s core and not include it. They’re also part of the metro. The most urbanized at that (except maybe Houston where Galveston competes).
I get what you're trying to say, but I don't think you know what "centralized" means and are missing the point.

Despite its wide boundries, everything in Houston is still spread out just like in Dallas, not necessarily in *central* places
 
Old 11-21-2020, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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I get what you're trying to say, but I don't think you know what "centralized" means and are missing the point.

Despite its wide boundries, everything in Houston is still spread out just like in Dallas, not necessarily in *central* places
Which is why they are compared unlike Boston/SF etc. They're all sprawling car centric metros. Houston and Atlanta just happen to have larger cores.
 
Old 11-21-2020, 12:56 PM
 
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Which is why they are compared unlike Boston/SF etc. They're all sprawling car centric metros. Houston and Atlanta just happen to have larger cores.
Atlanta is defiitely more centralized than Houston.

I'd say Houston is about the same as Dallas in terms of centralization. Again, city boundaries are irrelevant.
 
Old 11-21-2020, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Atlanta is defiitely more centralized than Houston.

I'd say Houston is about the same as Dallas in terms of centralization. Again, city boundaries are irrelevant.
You're reaching here. DFW is by far the least centralized metro of the 3.

Doesn't matter what the reason is, Houston and Atlanta have larger urban cores than Dallas. You're right, city boundaries don't matter. being that the boundaries in all 3 cities are far away from their urban cores, this is irrelevant. All these "but/ifs" you're mentioning don't matter. If Houston were a smaller city, with a smaller population and smaller boundaries, the core would be less than Dallas. But that's not the case is it
 
Old 11-21-2020, 01:08 PM
 
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You're reaching here...
No. Houston is pretty sprawly and thus by definition, is quite decentralized.

Atlanta is sprawly too, but to its credit, the lion's share of office/industrial areas are pretty tightly packed into a few specific hubs (I.E. Buckhead, Midtown, Downtown, Cumberland, Perimeter Center and Alpharetta).

It's not like Houston or Dallas where significant office/industrial develooment is scattered in large quantities in every which direction throughout the city/metro.
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