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View Poll Results: Most urban?
Atlanta 108 52.68%
Austin 4 1.95%
Charlotte 4 1.95%
Houston 54 26.34%
Dallas 31 15.12%
San Antonio 4 1.95%
Voters: 205. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-07-2021, 07:22 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Fly Dragon View Post
Atlanta is too heavily forested too "look" urban on a larger scale than just the downtown and immediate surroundings.
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Originally Posted by JMatl View Post
Not really. Forested and urban are not mutually exclusive, and we love forested.
Yeah, I never understood the mentality people have of how forest precludes urbanity. Perhaps because preservation of coverage may not lead to the more organized look associated with "traditional" city planning?


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The funny thing is the links provided show areas of Atlanta that look like Dallas, but you all say Dallas has no trees, so I’m confused.
They're probably just speaking from a relative standpoint. The natural Dallas landscape has greater amounts of prairie land, so there's not as extensive amount of mature natural tree coverage as present in Atlanta. But, at the same time, Dallas is not a "true" prairie from a climactic perspective, and it can obviously grow and support decent tree coverage, definitely compared to areas of the country farther west - it's a similar situation when you compare Great Lakes/Eastern Midwest cities versus the Northeast.

 
Old 01-07-2021, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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The funny thing is the links provided show areas of Atlanta that look like Dallas, but you all say Dallas has no trees, so I’m confused.
These are all recently planted. Leave the big, mature trees to Atlanta. Dallas seems more cut out for diminutive trees.
 
Old 01-07-2021, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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These are all recently planted. Leave the big, mature trees to Atlanta. Dallas seems more cut out for diminutive trees.
Sure.
 
Old 01-07-2021, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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The funny thing is the links provided show areas of Atlanta that look like Dallas, but you all say Dallas has no trees, so I’m confused.
No one’s said Dallas has no trees but in comparison to Atlanta it’s not even a competition.
 
Old 01-07-2021, 10:28 AM
 
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The funny thing is the links provided show areas of Atlanta that look like Dallas, but you all say Dallas has no trees, so I’m confused.
Yea those pics looks just like Dallas.
 
Old 01-07-2021, 10:30 AM
 
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No one’s said Dallas has no trees but in comparison to Atlanta it’s not even a competition.
But no city compares to Atlanta in tree coverage. Most U.S. cities don’t have Atlanta tree scape. That’s what makes Atlanta unique.
 
Old 01-07-2021, 11:07 AM
 
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I think some folks are still being obtuse on this topic.

Yes, it's possible for an area to be forested and urban. But that simply doesn't apply to large swaths of Atlanta and especially not Atlanta's suburbs.

The difference between places like Dallas/Houston and Atlanta is that the environment around Atlanta outside of its core developed in a way to ensure minimal destruction to its natural landscape so that a "rural, small town feel" was maintained. It's not the same as walking/driving along a densely built street with trees planted along the sidewalk.
 
Old 01-07-2021, 11:24 AM
 
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Originally Posted by citidata18 View Post
I think some folks are still being obtuse on this topic.

Yes, it's possible for an area to be forested and urban. But that simply doesn't apply to large swaths of Atlanta and especially not Atlanta's suburbs.

The difference between places like Dallas/Houston and Atlanta is that the environment around Atlanta outside of its core developed in a way to ensure minimal destruction to its natural landscape so that a "rural, small town feel" was maintained. It's not the same as walking/driving along a densely built neighborhood or commercial strips with trees planted along the sidewalk.
Exactly.
I like how Atlanta neighborhoods developed amongst is surroundings. I don't think it's a bag thing to say Atlanta is a forested metro, but it does make the overall build of the metro less built up than its counterparts further west.

Would be
New Orleans
Miami
Houston
DFW
Atlanta
For the bigger metros.

San Antonio too I would put on par with DFW.
 
Old 01-07-2021, 02:19 PM
 
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The funny thing is the links provided show areas of Atlanta that look like Dallas, but you all say Dallas has no trees, so I’m confused.
The difference is trees are everywhere in Atlanta: https://3toh891af6rf1cn1po1ecevj-wpe...-519712582.jpg

You won't see another major city with this many trees (city in a forest).
 
Old 01-07-2021, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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Exactly.
I like how Atlanta neighborhoods developed amongst is surroundings. I don't think it's a bag thing to say Atlanta is a forested metro, but it does make the overall build of the metro less built up than its counterparts further west.

Would be
New Orleans
Miami
Houston
DFW
Atlanta
For the bigger metros.

San Antonio too I would put on par with DFW.
This brings us back to the topic of the thread. What about the denser makeup of Dallas and Houston's suburbs make them "urban"? Their suburbs aren't any more walkable or less car-dependent than Atlanta's so how are those denser suburbs giving them an edge here when Atlanta's core blows theirs out of the water in walkability?
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