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I did not bring up the Katy trail. The last page or two are based as a vs.
You quoted me then said you disagree about two trails I didn't bring up so you totally lost me.have no idea what you are taking about
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Originally Posted by Exult.Q36
The whole Beltline development is screaming DFW.
Lol its screaming every city. And not just Texas, although Austin abs and San Antonio does have their own projects in and out the respective cities. Heck they are planning a hiking trail between Downtown SA and Austin that would parallel 35 and may incorporate rail in the future (sounds familiar Atlanta?).
There are wonderful projects in Florida.
Louisiana has some really nice urban trails and are planning loss more.
In fact the Mississippi River Trail may connect New Orleans to MSP.
Not to diminish the Beltline, I keep saying is a wonderful project, but in form it is no different from existing or future projects around the country. It's execution when done may be unique but the plans are not
No... I quoted R1070 and said I disagreed. I quoted you about your claim of the Beltine.
Where you lost me was when you said it goes above what the Katy trail or Buffalo bayou trail connects. I never mentioned those trails so i had no idea what you are taking about.
If I was mentioning Houston Buffalo Bayou trail would not be what I would highlight.
The Whole City is covered by trails. In far excess of what Atlanta or DFW connects.
Houston Bayous criss cross the city and are progressively being linked by trails. Besides that you have dedicated grade separated trails on former rail tracks like the Columbia Tap trail that connects downtown/ the Green Purple rail line and BBVA stadium with The Brays Bayou trail which aldo connects with the purple line on one end, through to the Red Line and then on to South west Houston.
I think you underestimate the vastness of Houston trails.
Just to clarify what I wrote a few months ago. I wasn't comparing Alief to suburban Atlanta. I was saying the entire Atlanta doesn't even have an area like Alief, yet alone one at that distance from Downtown regardless of whether it's a suburb or not. Alief being a poorer "Apartment" Neighborhood, which while not urban in a walkable sense, is urban in a crawling with people/ you can't mistake it for anywhere else but the city sense. Atlanta+North Atlanta burbs is comparable to Dallas and Houston. Cobb and the rest of suburban Atlanta (excluding a few parts of DeKalb and Gwinnett is iffy a bit), but the rest of it is basically if the developers of Magnolia/Lake Conroe decided to develop the area. From a Houston perspective, it's as if the only neighborhoods allowed are Acreage lots.
It's stunningly beautiful, but takes away from urbanity in any sense of the world. Basic suburbia is more urban than that.
Katy Trail simply doesn't operate like this. All of these things can be done without leaving the Beltline corridor at all. You don't have to take a single street to do any of this and you can go back home without ever leaving the trail at all.
Just to clarify what I wrote a few months ago. I wasn't comparing Alief to suburban Atlanta. I was saying the entire Atlanta doesn't even have an area like Alief, yet alone one at that distance from Downtown regardless of whether it's a suburb or not. Alief being a poorer "Apartment" Neighborhood, which while not urban in a walkable sense, is urban in a crawling with people/ you can't mistake it for anywhere else but the city sense. Atlanta+North Atlanta burbs is comparable to Dallas and Houston. Cobb and the rest of suburban Atlanta (excluding a few parts of DeKalb and Gwinnett is iffy a bit), but the rest of it is basically if the developers of Magnolia/Lake Conroe decided to develop the area. From a Houston perspective, it's as if the only neighborhoods allowed are Acreage lots.
It's stunningly beautiful, but takes away from urbanity in any sense of the world. Basic suburbia is more urban than that.
Do you consider Little Saigon as part of Alief? This has been subject for debate for a while now.
Katy Trail simply doesn't operate like this. All of these things can be done without leaving the Beltline corridor at all. You don't have to take a single street to do any of this and you can go back home without ever leaving the trail at all.
I get that, but there’s lots of apartments and condos that open right onto the trail. The Turtle Creek side of the trail is pretty much all parks, there’s a few restaurants right on the trail, but you can directly access Victory Park, Knox District, Mockingbird Station and SMU East Campus. West Village is a block off of the trail. It’s all walkable and easily accessible. Zoning in place really limits the size and types of developments right along the trail to maintain its character. There will never be a ton of retail right up against the trail, but you can easily grab lunch, drinks, shopping and even a Mavs/Stars game or concert right on the trail.
The whole Atlanta Beltline development is screaming DFW.
It’s really not different from what you do see around Dallas, but oh well.
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