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Are you serious? Have you never seen pictures (I assume you haven’t been) of New Orleans???
I get that things are subjective but I don’t think a question of New Orleans being urban is a matter of opinion....
Yeah, New Orleans is very urban. So many here don’t scale urbanity to the size of the metro and so many others don’t consider build form. It’s like only density and population numbers matter on this forum.
Yeah, New Orleans is very urban. So many here don’t scale urbanity to the size of the metro and so many others don’t consider build form. It’s like only density and population numbers matter on this forum.
Its one of the few southern metros where you get there, park somewhere and don't bother with the car until it's time to leave.
All the other cities discussed here would require you to move that vehicle multiple times a day.
The built form in the core neighborhoods are compact enough to walk to restaurants, bars, your job, grocery stores, clothing, parks or you can hop on a trolley to another walkable area or to the Zoo or hop on a ferry across the river.
He may think the urban area is small but it probably has the biggest continuously urban form in the south.
Miami has a lot of buildings but the urban form is not all that impressive.
Houston and Dallas their urban form isn't all that conduisive to walking.
Atlanta has pockets of good urban form but the are islands/ not really extensive or connected.
I know I'm going to get a lot of replies saying that the visited such and such a place and didn't have a car, you don't absolutely need a car anywhere, but to do more than spending half your time traveling, you do need a car in almost all these places.
New Orleans is densely packed in downtown, but where are the businesses and high rises outside of downtown?? It's mostly houses.
That's not what urban means. Businesses exist in all of New Orleans' urban neighborhoods. Some of them are on the corners and others are situated on retail corridors like Freret St, Oak St., O.C. Haley Blvd, Magazine St, Maple St, St Claude Ave, Harrison Ave, etc.
Skyscrapers don't exist because New Orleans is an actual urban city built before the skyscraper and fully built out before cars were invented. They only exist in the modern CBD. Other areas are far too old for that.
Its one of the few southern metros where you get there, park somewhere and don't bother with the car until it's time to leave.
All the other cities discussed here would require you to move that vehicle multiple times a day.
The built form in the core neighborhoods are compact enough to walk to restaurants, bars, your job, grocery stores, clothing, parks or you can hop on a trolley to another walkable area or to the Zoo or hop on a ferry across the river.
He may think the urban area is small but it probably has the biggest continuously urban form in the south.
Miami has a lot of buildings but the urban form is not all that impressive.
Houston and Dallas their urban form isn't all that conduisive to walking.
Atlanta has pockets of good urban form but the are islands/ not really extensive or connected.
I know I'm going to get a lot of replies saying that the visited such and such a place and didn't have a car, you don't absolutely need a car anywhere, but to do more than spending half your time traveling, you do need a car in almost all these places.
I feel like we should compare how urban the cities are to others of their size. Trying to rope them all together is hard because they all serve different functions. New Orleans, Charleston, and Savannah are in a different league urbanity wise but it’s largely because they’re so small compared to cities like Atlanta that lost much of its urbanity to white flight and the rise of the automobile.
I'm wondering if the people up-voting Atlanta have actually been there. Atlanta is a very green metro. If you drive the entire metro area, north to south, on the 75, you'll see a lot of trees, not development. There is a few breaks when you pass through the Buckhead skyline and of course downtown Atlanta...but other than that, there's not nearly the amount of continuous visible development that you see in Dallas or Houston.
Dallas and Houston, easily... They're the only ones that come close to the constant visible and built up environment of the Miami metro area.
New Orleans is densely packed in downtown, but where are the businesses and high rises outside of downtown?? It's mostly houses.
A lot of the city is densely packed.
And downtown doesn't really have Towers.
The towers surround downtown.
The Canal Corridor, The CBD, Warehouse and medical districts are where the towers are.
There are a few midrises in Mid Cities, but downtown new Orleans was built and already being protected by the time of skyscrapers
I'm wondering if the people up-voting Atlanta have actually been there. Atlanta is a very green metro. If you drive the entire metro area, north to south, on the 75, you'll see a lot of trees, not development. There is a few breaks when you pass through the Buckhead skyline and of course downtown Atlanta...but other than that, there's not nearly the amount of continuous visible development that you see in Dallas or Houston.
Dallas and Houston, easily... They're the only ones that come close to the constant visible and built up environment of the Miami metro area.
Why do people keep bringing up trees as if you can’t build under them. I don’t think you’ve ever been to Atlanta with that kind of analysis. Driving the freeway has nothing to do with the build form of the actual city. It’d be like saying DC isn’t urban because of trees.
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