Largest Metro Areas(MSA) Median Family Income By Racial Group, 2019 (living, cost)

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by kimumingyu

Keeping the black % above 60%, throwing out MSAs where Asians are skewing things over 105%+, and throwing out the MSAs where Hispanics have strangely low percentages (Providence) compared to Asians or blacks, I think these are the most equitable MSAs:

Riverside (98.14%, 71.48%, 76.80% - by far the most equitable)
San Antonio
Tampa
Tucson
Jacksonville
Las Vegas
Virginia Beach

looks about right

[Enean]

Originally Posted by kimumingyu

I was bored so decided to crunch some numbers to see the discrepancy between white and non-white people in each MSA.

Here's each MSA ranked by the minority group's median household income as a percentage of the white income in that MSA. 100% would be completely equal; percentages lower than 100% mean they are earning less than whites, and percentages higher than 100% mean they are out-earning whites.

Asian median household income as a % of white income

123.12% Detroit
122.30% Nashville
119.54% Phoenix
115.71% Pittsburgh
112.58% Cincinnati
111.18% Rochester
110.81% Columbus
110.15% Charlotte
109.95% Portland
109.33% Seattle
109.05% St Louis
107.16% Raleigh
106.94% Hartford
105.53% Cleveland
105.20% Jacksonville
104.82% Austin
104.71% Tucson
104.45% Tampa
104.38% Salt Lake City
104.03% Providence
99.75% San Jose
99.41% San Diego
99.25% Milwaukee
98.14% Riverside
98.12% Boston
97.95% Richmond
96.90% Chicago
95.64% Indianapolis
95.05% Dallas
94.82% Sacramento
94.40% Baltimore
94.18% Orlando
93.93% New Orleans
93.91% San Antonio
93.35% Atlanta
92.19% Memphis
91.41% Houston
91.41% Louisville
91.10% Virginia Beach
89.90% Washington
89.76% Las Vegas
89.69% Minneapolis
89.16% Denver
86.79% San Francisco
86.11% Philadelphia
85.74% Kansas City
85.26% Grand Rapids
83.32% Tulsa
80.83% Los Angeles
79.76% Fresno
79.31% Miami
79.10% New York
76.59% Oklahoma City
74.15% Birmingham
60.61% Buffalo

Hispanic median household income as a % of White income

76.13% Jacksonville
75.80% Pittsburgh
75.25% St Louis
71.48% Riverside
69.46% New Orleans
68.33% Tampa
66.41% Portland
66.27% Seattle
65.90% Baltimore
65.84% Louisville
65.68% Las Vegas
65.29% Detroit
64.75% Sacramento
64.70% Columbus
64.49% Tucson
63.58% Salt Lake City
62.51% Phoenix
62.13% San Antonio
61.49% Tulsa
61.19% Indianapolis
61.13% Virginia Beach
60.37% Grand Rapids
59.35% Orlando
59.23% Miami
58.56% Cincinnati
58.17% Fresno
57.91% Denver
57.61% Birmingham
57.42% San Diego
57.41% Memphis
57.37% Minneapolis
56.98% Austin
56.95% Oklahoma City
56.68% Chicago
56.19% Kansas City
54.85% Atlanta
54.50% Nashville
53.87% Dallas
53.10% Rochester
52.70% Raleigh
51.06% San Francisco
51.01% Los Angeles
50.71% Charlotte
49.88% Houston
49.24% Buffalo
49.04% Washington
48.84% Cleveland
48.71% Milwaukee
48.53% Richmond
48.08% San Jose
47.60% Hartford
47.41% Providence
47.08% New York
45.59% Boston
43.61% Philadelphia

Black median household income as a % of White income

77.99% Providence
76.80% Riverside
69.13% San Antonio
68.16% Tampa
67.82% Tucson
67.06% Phoenix
65.61% Jacksonville
64.39% Las Vegas
64.19% Virginia Beach
64.02% San Jose
63.67% Orlando
63.20% Atlanta
62.08% Nashville
60.87% Hartford
59.68% Louisville
59.57% Sacramento
59.52% Washington
58.29% Baltimore
57.95% Denver
57.95% San Diego
57.88% Charlotte
57.67% Birmingham
57.51% Austin
57.30% Dallas
57.25% Richmond
56.44% New Orleans
55.58% Tulsa
55.46% Seattle
55.19% Kansas City
54.63% Indianapolis
54.49% Columbus
54.14% Grand Rapids
54.08% Boston
53.66% Los Angeles
53.39% Detroit
53.36% St Louis
53.12% Buffalo
52.64% Houston
52.49% Raleigh
51.97% Cincinnati
51.59% Portland
51.47% New York
51.06% Philadelphia
50.88% Miami
50.73% Pittsburgh
50.17% Oklahoma City
49.55% Memphis
49.11% Fresno
48.91% San Francisco
48.09% Cleveland
47.62% Chicago
46.25% Rochester
42.08% Minneapolis
37.26% Salt Lake City
36.17% Milwaukee

The really high percentages in Nashville, Cincinnati, Detroit, etc. for Asians is probably due to the fact that these cities have quite small Asian populations to begin with and haven't been magnets for Asian immigrants throughout the decades (think older Vietnamese, Hmong, Chinese, etc. folks who moved to the US with low educational achievement to places like LA, Queens, San Francisco, etc.); the Asian populations they do have are small and likely high-skilled workers that moved there.

As for the black numbers, black people making 36% of what a white family makes in Milwaukee is an embarrassment. The top end of MSAs for black households is almost the same percentages as the bottom for Asians.

Yes, I've read Milwaukee is the city with the biggest difference in college degrees and income, between the Black population and the White population. There are many, many people with college degrees in Milwaukee, with high incomes. The opportunities for the Black and White population without degrees, has been very limited, due to the decrease in availability of blue collar jobs. Hence, the differences.

[citidata18]

Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

I was thinking the same thing and for the lists in general. There is also the aspect of the type of immigration/refugee resettlement for some areas as well.

To be fair to those New England areas, they do have places/neighborhoods with a substantial to high black percentage that are relatively middle class. Especially Hartford and Boston. I believe in the Providence area, Cranston has a decent sized black population with a substantial black middle class and on the MA size of the metro, Taunton I believe is similar.

IMO, I think the number of people making $50K+ is a better indicator of how good an area is for middle class people than median family income.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by kimumingyu

Keeping the black % above 60%, throwing out MSAs where Asians are skewing things over 105%+, and throwing out the MSAs where Hispanics have strangely low percentages (Providence) compared to Asians or blacks, I think these are the most equitable MSAs:

Riverside (98.14%, 71.48%, 76.80% - by far the most equitable)
San Antonio
Tampa
Tucson
Jacksonville
Las Vegas
Virginia Beach

While older, these lists do what you did using per capita income: https://www.bizjournals.com/bizjourn...cially-in.html

https://www.bizjournals.com/bizjourn...me-gap-in.html

https://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/...e=&CPIorderBy=

If you expand the list to the top 101 metros, using this criteria Poughkeepsie and Dayton are in the top 10 when looking at white PCI and the gap between blacks, Hispanics and Asians. Meaning, both of those areas are in the top 10 for lowest PCI gaps.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by citidata18

IMO, I think the number of people making $50K+ is a better indicator of how good an area is for middle class people than median family income.

That's fine. I'm just saying that those areas do have areas where you can find a substantial to even predominant black percentage where the black residents are middle class.

In some areas, you may be able to go a little bit lower, depending on the household size as well. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pew...years/%3famp=1

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...-middle-class/

More information: https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-ethnic-group/ (I believe that this is 1 year information)

[908Boi]

Providence, RI being that high is very surprising if not suspect.

Rest of the list looks on point. Thanks for compiling this.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

source: data.census.gov

I also included the number of families in each MSA for better context.

Metro Areas(MSA) by Median Black Family Income, 2019
$111,874 San Jose(8,665 Black Families)
$93,525 Washington DC(353,102)
$82,130 San Francisco(72,815)
$76,462 Providence(20,392)
$72,030 Riverside(75,041)
$71,347 Boston(90,904)
$71,047 Baltimore(183,651)
$70,105 Hartford(31,175)
$69,931 Austin(37,615)
$69,852 Denver(34,921)
$67,812 Los Angeles(175,277)
$69,524 New York(761,059)
$67,585 San Antonio(38,595)
$67,227 San Diego(33,617)
$66,702 Atlanta(461,322)
66,511 Seattle(49,713)
$62,811 Dallas(268,862)
$62,139 Phoenix(58,711)
$61,976 Sacramento(34,625)
$62,040 Virginia Beach(128,015)
$62,018 Richmond(82,254)
$61,026 Houston(274,914)
$59,835 Raleigh(65,968)
$59,027 Nashville(66,648)
$58,018 Philadelphia(278,458)
$57,416 Orlando(87,809)
$57,138 Jacksonville(72,507)
$57,024 Tucson(6,094)
$56,449 Las Vegas(59,325)
$56,222 Charlotte(133,605)
$55,600 Tampa(76,526)
$54,847 Chicago(325,467)
$53,148 Kansas City(60,002)
$52,284 Portland(15,561)
$51,869 Miami(270,939)
$51,523 Birmingham(79,947)
$50,988 Columbus(74,684)
$50,213 New Orleans(88,548)
$50,306 St Louis(114,409)
$49,832 Louisville(43,119)
$49,710 Indianapolis(60,881)
$49,186 Detroit(208,910)
$49,007 Cincinnati(60,585)
$48,022 Minneapolis(60,352)
$47,202 Memphis(144,733)
$45,997 Grand Rapids(14,445)
$45,647 Buffalo(31,069)
$45,098 Tulsa(18,277)
$44,901 Pittsburgh(39,876)
$44,446 Oklahoma City(31,189)
$43,778 Fresno(11,763)
$42,422 Cleveland(88,885)
$41,649 Rochester(25,836)
$37,243 Salt Lake City
$36,748 Milwaukee(55,484)

Metro Areas(MSA)by Median Hispanic or Latino Family Income, 2019
$85,748 San Francisco(201,104 Hispanic Families)
$84,020 San Jose(100,412)
$80,321 Baltimore(31,836)
$79,476 Seattle(78,552)
$77,070 Washington DC(198,484)
$70,942 St Louis(15,876)
$69,800 Denver(143,944)
$69,288 Austin(147,888)
$67,358 Sacramento(105,168)
$67,308 Portland(59,862)
$67,095 Pittsburgh(7,680)
$67,039 Riverside(476,675)
$66,616 San Diego(227,104)
$66,299 Jacksonville(32,791)
$65,473 Minneapolis(42,411)
$65,286 Chicago(441,595)
$64,456 Los Angeles(1,209,861)
$63,596 New York(1,066,226)
$63,549 Salt Lake City(44,945)
$61,793 New Orleans(22,776)
$60,750 San Antonio(283,294)
$60,543 Columbus(16,842)
$60,381 Miami(663,418)
$60,149 Detroit(39,423)
$60,145 Boston(115,830)
$60,074 Raleigh(30,422)
$59,080 Virginia Beach(28,272)
$59,050 Dallas(456,085)
$57,923 Phoenix(307,232)
$57,896 Atlanta(131,203)
$57,826 Houston(589,485)
$57,579 Las Vegas(141,994)
$55,677 Indianapolis(25,823)
$55,746 Tampa(134,983)
$55,215 Cincinnati(15,261)
$54,978 Louisville(11,805)
$54,824 Hartford(36,388)
$54,695 Memphis(14,496)
$54,220 Tucson(84,554)
$54,104 Kansas City(41,571)
$53,515 Orlando(175,770)
$52,567 Richmond(14,873)
$51,847 Fresno(112,345)
$51,821 Nashville(28,050)
$51,476 Birmingham(11,016)
$51,289 Grand Rapids(20,991)
$50,452 Oklahoma City(36,611)
$49,891 Tulsa(19,970)
$49,555 Philadelphia(123,655)
$49,486 Milwaukee(34,592)
$49,259 Charlotte(54,941)
$47,817 Rochester(105,168)
$46,484 Providence(45,549)
$43,086 Cleveland(28,073)
$42,316 Buffalo(13,022)

Metro Areas(MSA) by Median Asian Family Income, 2019
$174,320 San Jose(180,141 Asian Families)
$145,748 San Francisco(301,671)
$141,265 Washington DC(154,591)
$131,117 Seattle(142,877)
$129,454 Boston(92,643)
$127,463 Austin(30,710)
$123,161 Hartford(15,841)
$122,146 Raleigh(22,967)
$116,288 Nashville(11,618)
$115,328 San Diego(93,016)
$115,057 Baltimore(38,866)
$113,423 Detroit(50,168)
$111,612 Chicago(162,200)
$111,438 Portland(38,786)
$110,774 Phoenix(44,550)
$107,469 Denver(30,452)
$106,994 Charlotte(24,530)
$106,838 New York(554,723)
$106,152 Cincinnati(14,648)
$106,098 Richmond(12,535)
$105,975 Houston(140,201)
$104,334 Salt Lake City(10,088)
$104,183 Dallas(142,019)
$103,685 Columbus(23,948)
$102,813 St Louis(18,943)
$102,418 Pittsburgh(13,308)
$102,363 Minneapolis(52,329)
$102,133 Los Angeles(526,384)
$101,997 Providence(10,466)
$100,827 Milwaukee(13,022)
$100,115 Rochester(6,406)
$98,647 Sacramento(75,197)
$98,525 Atlanta(94,201)
$97,838 Philadelphia(92,696)
$93,096 Cleveland(12,844)
$92,043 RIverside(79,078)
$91,816 San Antonio(14,483)
$91,618 Jacksonville(14,985)
$88,047 Virginia Beach(17,104)
$88,043 Tucson(6,037)
$87,827 Memphis(6,649)
$87,020 Indianapolis(16,045)
$85,206 Tampa(25,481)
$84,921 Orlando(26,978)
$83,565 New Orleans(7,926)
$82,563 Kansas City(13,931)
$80,846 Miami(38,687)
$78,687 Las Vegas(53,240)
$76,332 Louisville(6,698)
$72,440 Grand Rapids(7,412)
$71,098 Fresno(22,904)
$67,847 Oklahoma City(10,602)
$67,608 Tulsa(6,180)
$66,250 Birmingham(4,228)
$52,091 Buffalo(7,839)

Metro Areas(MSA) by Median Non-Hispanic White Family Income
$174,761 San Jose(164,327 Non-Hispanic White Families)
$167,927 San Francisco(462,891)
$157,142 Washington DC(724,355)
$135,069 New York(2,223,646)
$131,935 Boston(846,874)
$126,363 Los Angeles(975,609)
$121,880 Baltimore(414,438)
$121,599 Austin(283,285)
$120,538 Denver(492,320)
$119,927 Seattle(643,759)
$116,016 San Diego(387,990)
$115,928 Houston(683,329)
$115,177 Chicago(1,297,319)
$115,166 Hartford(211,063)
$114,134 Minneapolis(706,251)
$113,985 Raleigh(229,487)
$113,625 Philadelphia(979,324)
$109,611 Dallas(914,168)
$108,321 Richmond(193,363)
$105,547 Atlanta(747,121)
$104,032 Sacramento(325,493)
$101,937 Miami(456,139)
$101,586 Milwaukee(276,593)
$101,352 Portland(461,015)
$99,958 Salt Lake City(213,775)
$98,045 Providence(311,152)
$97,771 San Antonio(217,669)
$97,138 Charlotte(423,186)
$96,646 Virginia Beach(258,436)
$96,292 Kansas City(418,207)
$95,264 Memphis(152,620)
$95,082 Nashville(364,286)
$94,290 Cincinnati(461,184)
$94,280 St Louis(558,826)
$93,786 Riverside(377,595)
$93,568 Columbus(393,470)
$92,667 Phoenix(720,526)
$92,126 Detroit(756,825)
$90,990 Indianapolis(380,124)
$90,172 Orlando(300,635)
$90,049 Rochester(209,612)
$89,347 Birmingham(180,799)
$89,136 Fresno(75,384)
$88,961 New Orleans(166,724)
$88,583 Oklahoma City(232,759)
$88,514 Pittsburgh(527,004)
$88,218 Cleveland(370,413)
$87,668 Las Vegas(244,438)
$87,087 Jacksonville(256,998)
$85,939 Buffalo(229,865)
$84,962 Grand Rapids(220,092)
$84,079 Tucson(140,701)
$83,504 Louisville(247,585)
$81,578 Tampa(499,726)
$81,138 Tulsa(174,049)

A related stat Im working on...

2019 Households Earning $200,000+ CSA
Total
$200K+ HHs...CSA...............White $200K+ HHs......( $200K+ MINORITY HOUSEHOLDS)
1,317,890 New York............. 938,969....................(378,921).....28.7% of all $200K+ Households
753,465 San Francisco..........417,197....................(336 ,228)......44.6% of all $200K+ Households
691,442 Los Angeles.............409,362....................(28 2,020)......40.8% of all $200K+ Households
613,086 Washington.............424,468.................... (188,618)......30.6% of all $200K+ Households
444,906 Boston....................379,639................. ...(65,267)........14.6% of all $200K+ Households
389,047 Chicago..................304,190.................. ...(84,887)........21.5% of all $200K+ Households
291,734 Philadelphia..............240,095................. ...(51,642).......17.5% of all $200K+ Households
275,150 Seattle....................200,970................ ....(74,180)........26.9% of all $200K+ Households
268,084 Dallas......................198,584............... ....(69,500)........25.9% of all $200K+ Households
252,207 Houston...................171,831................. ..(80,376)........31.7% of all $200K+ Households
228,066 Atlanta.....................168,605............... .....(59,461).......26.2% of all $200K+ Households
198,739 Miami.......................125,193............... ....(73,546)........36.8% of all $200K+ Households
170,922 Denver.....................144,433................ ...(26,489)........15.2% of all $200K+ Households
162,187 Minneapolis..............144,850.................. .(17,337).........10.4% of all $200K+ Households
151,572 Detroit.....................124,353............... ....(28,219).........18.4% of all $200K+ Households
139,793 Phoenix....................110,043................ ...(29,750).........20.8% of all $200K+ Households
107,125 Portland.....................89,248............... ...(17,877)..........16.6% of all $200K+ Households

Is NYC supposed to be flipped with Los Angeles in the first list?

[mwj119]

Originally Posted by Enean

Yes, I've read Milwaukee is the city with the biggest difference in college degrees and income, between the Black population and the White population. There are many, many people with college degrees in Milwaukee, with high incomes. The opportunities for the Black and White population without degrees, has been very limited, due to the decrease in availability of blue collar jobs. Hence, the differences.

And in that way, Chicago and Milwaukee seem to really mirror each other (which, makes a lot of sense).

[mwj119]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

source: data.census.gov

I also included the number of families in each MSA for better context.

Metro Areas(MSA) by Median Black Family Income, 2019
$111,874 San Jose(8,665 Black Families)
$93,525 Washington DC(353,102)
$82,130 San Francisco(72,815)
$76,462 Providence(20,392)
$72,030 Riverside(75,041)
$71,347 Boston(90,904)
$71,047 Baltimore(183,651)
$70,105 Hartford(31,175)
$69,931 Austin(37,615)
$69,852 Denver(34,921)
$67,812 Los Angeles(175,277)
$69,524 New York(761,059)
$67,585 San Antonio(38,595)
$67,227 San Diego(33,617)
$66,702 Atlanta(461,322)
66,511 Seattle(49,713)
$62,811 Dallas(268,862)
$62,139 Phoenix(58,711)
$61,976 Sacramento(34,625)
$62,040 Virginia Beach(128,015)
$62,018 Richmond(82,254)
$61,026 Houston(274,914)
$59,835 Raleigh(65,968)
$59,027 Nashville(66,648)
$58,018 Philadelphia(278,458)
$57,416 Orlando(87,809)
$57,138 Jacksonville(72,507)
$57,024 Tucson(6,094)
$56,449 Las Vegas(59,325)
$56,222 Charlotte(133,605)
$55,600 Tampa(76,526)
$54,847 Chicago(325,467)
$53,148 Kansas City(60,002)
$52,284 Portland(15,561)
$51,869 Miami(270,939)
$51,523 Birmingham(79,947)
$50,988 Columbus(74,684)
$50,213 New Orleans(88,548)
$50,306 St Louis(114,409)
$49,832 Louisville(43,119)
$49,710 Indianapolis(60,881)
$49,186 Detroit(208,910)
$49,007 Cincinnati(60,585)
$48,022 Minneapolis(60,352)
$47,202 Memphis(144,733)
$45,997 Grand Rapids(14,445)
$45,647 Buffalo(31,069)
$45,098 Tulsa(18,277)
$44,901 Pittsburgh(39,876)
$44,446 Oklahoma City(31,189)
$43,778 Fresno(11,763)
$42,422 Cleveland(88,885)
$41,649 Rochester(25,836)
$37,243 Salt Lake City
$36,748 Milwaukee(55,484)

This is great data, thanks as always 18montclair. First time I've genuinely been proud of Greater Boston in a data set like this.

Now, if only some of the top cities above could advance equity in education. I don't have the answers without massive government overreach.. But some combination of desegregation in the ways non-white students go to one school, and white/Asian students go to another, and programs to make inner city public schools more appetizing - by way of earning power for teachers and updated facilities- will massively help.

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by 908Boi

Providence, RI being that high is very surprising if not suspect.

Rest of the list looks on point. Thanks for compiling this.

Yea its a little suspect.