Largest Metro Areas(MSA) Median Family Income By Racial Group, 2019 (America, metropolitan)

[Enean]

Originally Posted by Boston Shudra

I don’t get what any of this has to do with the city’s abysmal black family income?

When people receive assistance, they are not always eager to work, as they will then lose their assistance. I have a social worker in my immediate family, in Milwaukee and she runs into that frequently. Offers of jobs are refused, as they will lose assistance. You're trying to make me sound like a racist, I believe, and you couldn't be more mistaken. I have a Black grandson, and I couldn't love him more. I only want the best for him, and everyone else, for that matter.

Here's an area of Milwaukee that is home to a LOT of young Millennials, but I would not live here. Not a lot of crime, and not violent crime, but enough that I would live on the other side of the river. Do a 360, and then take a tour.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0515...7i16384!8i8192

[Enean]

Originally Posted by Boston Shudra

I don’t get what any of this has to do with the city’s abysmal black family income?

Read on, then. If you don't think the programs that the Democratic and Socialist mayors put in place, have had any impact on this, not quite sure who you want to blame.

[Boston Shudra]

Originally Posted by Enean

Read on, then. If you don't think the programs that the Democratic and Socialist mayors put in place, have had any impact on this, not quite sure who you want to blame.

I don't want to blame anyone, but I don't think that explains it. Plenty of cities with Democratic mayors are high on that list. It's also not the only place in the country with social welfare programs. Nothing you've said has differentiated Milwaukee enough to explain its bad numbers.

Though SLC seems just as bad as Milwaukee on this front, and the two seem like very different cities from what I know about them.

[Enean]

Originally Posted by Boston Shudra

I don't want to blame anyone, but I don't think that explains it. Plenty of cities with Democratic mayors are high on that list. It's also not the only place in the country with social welfare programs. Nothing you've said has differentiated Milwaukee enough to explain its bad numbers.

Though SLC seems just as bad as Milwaukee on this front, and the two seem like very different cities from what I know about them.

Well, when you're in Milwaukee, unless you're in a certain couple areas, you don't see any of this. Crime is, as I said, pretty much in certain areas, and doesn't much deviate from those areas. I lived in Milwaukee for years, have family there, and no one has been touched by crime. Education is available, there are job opportunities, and people have to decide on their own, whether to take them, or not.

Truancy is a big problem, and there are a lot of children without active fathers in their lives...obviously this impacts life. It all starts in the home.

Milwaukee's worst neighborhood.....Metcalf Park. Compared to the worst neighborhood in many cities, it's not that bad. I've never been, but my daughter has been there in her capacity as a social worker. A lot, LOT, of homes with no man of the house. From Metcalf Park, mosey on up to Sherman Park....that's not good, either, but very many lovely homes.

Milwaukee's worst neighborhoods, are not slums.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Me....9543099?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps?q=sherma..._AUoAnoECAwQBA

[kimumingyu]

Originally Posted by kimumingyu

Keeping the black % above 60%, throwing out MSAs where Asians are skewing things over 105%+, and throwing out the MSAs where Hispanics have strangely low percentages (Providence) compared to Asians or blacks, I think these are the most equitable MSAs:

Riverside (98.14%, 71.48%, 76.80% - by far the most equitable)
San Antonio
Tampa
Tucson
Jacksonville
Las Vegas
Virginia Beach

And just on the reverse, the least equal for non-white families are:

Buffalo (Asian 60.61%, Hispanic 49.24%, Black 53.12%)
New York (79.10%, 47.08%, 51.47%)
Philadelphia (86.11%, 43.61%, 51.06%)

If we exclude data for Asian families, Milwaukee, Philly and Cleveland are 3 worst, though.

[Chicagoland60426]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

source: data.census.gov

I also included the number of families in each MSA for better context.

Metro Areas(MSA) by Median Black Family Income, 2019
$111,874 San Jose(8,665 Black Families)
$93,525 Washington DC(353,102)
$82,130 San Francisco(72,815)
$76,462 Providence(20,392)
$72,030 Riverside(75,041)
$71,347 Boston(90,904)
$71,047 Baltimore(183,651)
$70,105 Hartford(31,175)
$69,931 Austin(37,615)
$69,852 Denver(34,921)
$67,812 Los Angeles(175,277)
$69,524 New York(761,059)
$67,585 San Antonio(38,595)
$67,227 San Diego(33,617)
$66,702 Atlanta(461,322)
66,511 Seattle(49,713)
$62,811 Dallas(268,862)
$62,139 Phoenix(58,711)
$61,976 Sacramento(34,625)
$62,040 Virginia Beach(128,015)
$62,018 Richmond(82,254)
$61,026 Houston(274,914)
$59,835 Raleigh(65,968)
$59,027 Nashville(66,648)
$58,018 Philadelphia(278,458)
$57,416 Orlando(87,809)
$57,138 Jacksonville(72,507)
$57,024 Tucson(6,094)
$56,449 Las Vegas(59,325)
$56,222 Charlotte(133,605)
$55,600 Tampa(76,526)
$54,847 Chicago(325,467)
$53,148 Kansas City(60,002)
$52,284 Portland(15,561)
$51,869 Miami(270,939)
$51,523 Birmingham(79,947)
$50,988 Columbus(74,684)
$50,213 New Orleans(88,548)
$50,306 St Louis(114,409)
$49,832 Louisville(43,119)
$49,710 Indianapolis(60,881)
$49,186 Detroit(208,910)
$49,007 Cincinnati(60,585)
$48,022 Minneapolis(60,352)
$47,202 Memphis(144,733)
$45,997 Grand Rapids(14,445)
$45,647 Buffalo(31,069)
$45,098 Tulsa(18,277)
$44,901 Pittsburgh(39,876)
$44,446 Oklahoma City(31,189)
$43,778 Fresno(11,763)
$42,422 Cleveland(88,885)
$41,649 Rochester(25,836)
$37,243 Salt Lake City
$36,748 Milwaukee(55,484)

Metro Areas(MSA)by Median Hispanic or Latino Family Income, 2019
$85,748 San Francisco(201,104 Hispanic Families)
$84,020 San Jose(100,412)
$80,321 Baltimore(31,836)
$79,476 Seattle(78,552)
$77,070 Washington DC(198,484)
$70,942 St Louis(15,876)
$69,800 Denver(143,944)
$69,288 Austin(147,888)
$67,358 Sacramento(105,168)
$67,308 Portland(59,862)
$67,095 Pittsburgh(7,680)
$67,039 Riverside(476,675)
$66,616 San Diego(227,104)
$66,299 Jacksonville(32,791)
$65,473 Minneapolis(42,411)
$65,286 Chicago(441,595)
$64,456 Los Angeles(1,209,861)
$63,596 New York(1,066,226)
$63,549 Salt Lake City(44,945)
$61,793 New Orleans(22,776)
$60,750 San Antonio(283,294)
$60,543 Columbus(16,842)
$60,381 Miami(663,418)
$60,149 Detroit(39,423)
$60,145 Boston(115,830)
$60,074 Raleigh(30,422)
$59,080 Virginia Beach(28,272)
$59,050 Dallas(456,085)
$57,923 Phoenix(307,232)
$57,896 Atlanta(131,203)
$57,826 Houston(589,485)
$57,579 Las Vegas(141,994)
$55,677 Indianapolis(25,823)
$55,746 Tampa(134,983)
$55,215 Cincinnati(15,261)
$54,978 Louisville(11,805)
$54,824 Hartford(36,388)
$54,695 Memphis(14,496)
$54,220 Tucson(84,554)
$54,104 Kansas City(41,571)
$53,515 Orlando(175,770)
$52,567 Richmond(14,873)
$51,847 Fresno(112,345)
$51,821 Nashville(28,050)
$51,476 Birmingham(11,016)
$51,289 Grand Rapids(20,991)
$50,452 Oklahoma City(36,611)
$49,891 Tulsa(19,970)
$49,555 Philadelphia(123,655)
$49,486 Milwaukee(34,592)
$49,259 Charlotte(54,941)
$47,817 Rochester(105,168)
$46,484 Providence(45,549)
$43,086 Cleveland(28,073)
$42,316 Buffalo(13,022)

Metro Areas(MSA) by Median Asian Family Income, 2019
$174,320 San Jose(180,141 Asian Families)
$145,748 San Francisco(301,671)
$141,265 Washington DC(154,591)
$131,117 Seattle(142,877)
$129,454 Boston(92,643)
$127,463 Austin(30,710)
$123,161 Hartford(15,841)
$122,146 Raleigh(22,967)
$116,288 Nashville(11,618)
$115,328 San Diego(93,016)
$115,057 Baltimore(38,866)
$113,423 Detroit(50,168)
$111,612 Chicago(162,200)
$111,438 Portland(38,786)
$110,774 Phoenix(44,550)
$107,469 Denver(30,452)
$106,994 Charlotte(24,530)
$106,838 New York(554,723)
$106,152 Cincinnati(14,648)
$106,098 Richmond(12,535)
$105,975 Houston(140,201)
$104,334 Salt Lake City(10,088)
$104,183 Dallas(142,019)
$103,685 Columbus(23,948)
$102,813 St Louis(18,943)
$102,418 Pittsburgh(13,308)
$102,363 Minneapolis(52,329)
$102,133 Los Angeles(526,384)
$101,997 Providence(10,466)
$100,827 Milwaukee(13,022)
$100,115 Rochester(6,406)
$98,647 Sacramento(75,197)
$98,525 Atlanta(94,201)
$97,838 Philadelphia(92,696)
$93,096 Cleveland(12,844)
$92,043 RIverside(79,078)
$91,816 San Antonio(14,483)
$91,618 Jacksonville(14,985)
$88,047 Virginia Beach(17,104)
$88,043 Tucson(6,037)
$87,827 Memphis(6,649)
$87,020 Indianapolis(16,045)
$85,206 Tampa(25,481)
$84,921 Orlando(26,978)
$83,565 New Orleans(7,926)
$82,563 Kansas City(13,931)
$80,846 Miami(38,687)
$78,687 Las Vegas(53,240)
$76,332 Louisville(6,698)
$72,440 Grand Rapids(7,412)
$71,098 Fresno(22,904)
$67,847 Oklahoma City(10,602)
$67,608 Tulsa(6,180)
$66,250 Birmingham(4,228)
$52,091 Buffalo(7,839)

Metro Areas(MSA) by Median Non-Hispanic White Family Income
$174,761 San Jose(164,327 Non-Hispanic White Families)
$167,927 San Francisco(462,891)
$157,142 Washington DC(724,355)
$135,069 New York(2,223,646)
$131,935 Boston(846,874)
$126,363 Los Angeles(975,609)
$121,880 Baltimore(414,438)
$121,599 Austin(283,285)
$120,538 Denver(492,320)
$119,927 Seattle(643,759)
$116,016 San Diego(387,990)
$115,928 Houston(683,329)
$115,177 Chicago(1,297,319)
$115,166 Hartford(211,063)
$114,134 Minneapolis(706,251)
$113,985 Raleigh(229,487)
$113,625 Philadelphia(979,324)
$109,611 Dallas(914,168)
$108,321 Richmond(193,363)
$105,547 Atlanta(747,121)
$104,032 Sacramento(325,493)
$101,937 Miami(456,139)
$101,586 Milwaukee(276,593)
$101,352 Portland(461,015)
$99,958 Salt Lake City(213,775)
$98,045 Providence(311,152)
$97,771 San Antonio(217,669)
$97,138 Charlotte(423,186)
$96,646 Virginia Beach(258,436)
$96,292 Kansas City(418,207)
$95,264 Memphis(152,620)
$95,082 Nashville(364,286)
$94,290 Cincinnati(461,184)
$94,280 St Louis(558,826)
$93,786 Riverside(377,595)
$93,568 Columbus(393,470)
$92,667 Phoenix(720,526)
$92,126 Detroit(756,825)
$90,990 Indianapolis(380,124)
$90,172 Orlando(300,635)
$90,049 Rochester(209,612)
$89,347 Birmingham(180,799)
$89,136 Fresno(75,384)
$88,961 New Orleans(166,724)
$88,583 Oklahoma City(232,759)
$88,514 Pittsburgh(527,004)
$88,218 Cleveland(370,413)
$87,668 Las Vegas(244,438)
$87,087 Jacksonville(256,998)
$85,939 Buffalo(229,865)
$84,962 Grand Rapids(220,092)
$84,079 Tucson(140,701)
$83,504 Louisville(247,585)
$81,578 Tampa(499,726)
$81,138 Tulsa(174,049)

A related stat Im working on...

2019 Households Earning $200,000+ CSA
Total
$200K+ HHs...CSA...............White $200K+ HHs......( $200K+ MINORITY HOUSEHOLDS)
1,317,890 New York............. 938,969....................(378,921).....28.7% of all $200K+ Households
753,465 San Francisco..........417,197....................(336 ,228)......44.6% of all $200K+ Households
691,442 Los Angeles.............409,362....................(28 2,020)......40.8% of all $200K+ Households
613,086 Washington.............424,468.................... (188,618)......30.6% of all $200K+ Households
444,906 Boston....................379,639................. ...(65,267)........14.6% of all $200K+ Households
389,047 Chicago..................304,190.................. ...(84,887)........21.5% of all $200K+ Households
291,734 Philadelphia..............240,095................. ...(51,642).......17.5% of all $200K+ Households
275,150 Seattle....................200,970................ ....(74,180)........26.9% of all $200K+ Households
268,084 Dallas......................198,584............... ....(69,500)........25.9% of all $200K+ Households
252,207 Houston...................171,831................. ..(80,376)........31.7% of all $200K+ Households
228,066 Atlanta.....................168,605............... .....(59,461).......26.2% of all $200K+ Households
198,739 Miami.......................125,193............... ....(73,546)........36.8% of all $200K+ Households
170,922 Denver.....................144,433................ ...(26,489)........15.2% of all $200K+ Households
162,187 Minneapolis..............144,850.................. .(17,337).........10.4% of all $200K+ Households
151,572 Detroit.....................124,353............... ....(28,219).........18.4% of all $200K+ Households
139,793 Phoenix....................110,043................ ...(29,750).........20.8% of all $200K+ Households
107,125 Portland.....................89,248............... ...(17,877)..........16.6% of all $200K+ Households

Impressed by Bmore's numbers. If only these figures held up in the city itself.

[As Above So Below...]

Chicago could write a book on black income disparity it seems. Too bad, I love that city but its got a lot of issues to work out on that front.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

Chicago could write a book on black income disparity it seems. Too bad, I love that city but its got a lot of issues to work out on that front.

To be honest, all of these areas do, to some degree.

What is interesting is that from San Jose to Buffalo are the areas with black median household incomes that are above the national figure. https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-ethnic-group/

[mwj119]

Originally Posted by Enean

Milwaukee's worst neighborhood.....Metcalf Park. Compared to the worst neighborhood in many cities, it's not that bad. I've never been, but my daughter has been there in her capacity as a social worker. A lot, LOT, of homes with no man of the house. From Metcalf Park, mosey on up to Sherman Park....that's not good, either, but very many lovely homes.

Milwaukee's worst neighborhoods, are not slums.

True story- We were staying somewhere just south of University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. We decided to go back roads, west, to have lunch in Wauwatosa prior to going to a Brewers game. I didn't realize that we'd be driving through some of the more dangerous, blighted neighborhoods in Milwaukee.

It didn't feel like the sister neighborhoods in Detroit and Cleveland, but it certainly felt like a pretttttty rough area.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0591...4!8i8192?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0748...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0704...7i16384!8i8192

I don't know if I'd call these areas slums. But, there's probably more barren neighborhoods and urban blight in Milwaukee than I realized.

[Enean]

Originally Posted by mwj119

True story- We were staying somewhere just south of University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. We decided to go back roads, west, to have lunch in Wauwatosa prior to going to a Brewers game. I didn't realize that we'd be driving through some of the more dangerous, blighted neighborhoods in Milwaukee.

It didn't feel like the sister neighborhoods in Detroit and Cleveland, but it certainly felt like a pretttttty rough area.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0591...4!8i8192?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0748...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0704...7i16384!8i8192

I don't know if I'd call these areas slums. But, there's probably more barren neighborhoods and urban blight in Milwaukee than I realized.

If you're from Boston, there are quite a few bad areas there, as well. I have links, if you want me to share.

Yes, dangerous areas, and you chose the most blighted blocks you could find. Overall, these areas have pretty decent homes, considering. Just take a mosey around on the links, and go farther than the stops that this person chose to highlight. EVERY city has areas like this....usually, much worse than Milwaukee has. If you chose (for some very weird reason), to go through the dangerous areas, that's on you. There are many other ways to go.

If you're in Milwaukee, you've also see the beauty of the neighborhoods on the east side....miles upon miles of beautiful homes and neighborhoods. The bad doesn't come close to matching the bad in some other cities.