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Here is a walkability heat map comparison of Columbus and Buffalo core areas, with Buffalo image extending into the northern suburbs as city proper is geographically smaller than Columbus. Roughly to the same scale.
Interesting - this actually shows the walkable areas to be pretty similar in scale. Buffalo has one large continuous blob, while Columbus' walkable areas are a little less cohesive but there is still a decent contiguous area in the urban core.
Cbus downtown is pretty pathetic, seriously boring and dead.
You're being ridiculous, lol. You don't even know the names of the neighborhoods in KC you are referencing. Check out Crown Center, Union Hill, Garment District, Crossroads Art District, Westport and of course the Plaza District that blows Cbus away. https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...817868/enhance
Here is an interesting stat: Buffalo Population 1890 - 255,664, 2019 - 255,284, Columbus Population 1890 - 88,150, 2019 -787,033. Columbus is the state capital and capitals tend to have loads of government job. Its also home to Ohio State. Columbus is growing, Buffalo is shrinking. Long term I would bet on Columbus.
Here is an interesting stat: Buffalo Population 1890 - 255,664, 2019 - 255,284, Columbus Population 1890 - 88,150, 2019 -787,033. Columbus is the state capital and capitals tend to have loads of government job. Its also home to Ohio State. Columbus is growing, Buffalo is shrinking. Long term I would bet on Columbus.
Yes, but to answer the question of better urban amenities, Columbus doesn't have much to talk about while Buffalo built a light rail system post 1980.
Yes, but to answer the question of better urban amenities, Columbus doesn't have much to talk about while Buffalo built a light rail system post 1980.
A light rail system completed in 1986 that goes nowhere. The extensions were never built. It goes from UB Main St campus to downtown. It was useless for me, I rode it once when it opened and never again. You have to take a bus the the station or park and walk a million miles in inclement weather just to go downtown. I can drive in 15 minutes and not freeze to death.
Wikipedia:
"At the time of the start of construction, the line was intended to be the first line for an extensive heavy rail system that would spread throughout the city and suburbs. However, during the construction of the line and afterward, Buffalo's population declined significantly by approximately 55% from around 580,000 in 1950 to about 261,000 in 2010 and the new line's ridership was much lower than originally anticipated. The cost of the urban section was so high that no funding was available to extend the lines into the suburbs, including the Amherst campus of the University at Buffalo. Efforts to obtain funding for feeder lines have historically been met with little to no success."
The rail is a great urban amenity for visitors and residents downtown, as the 1.5 mile above ground section is free, and runs from Harborcenter/Canalside/Key Bank Center to Chippewa/Theater District, with walkability to nearly all of the downtown hotels and the convention center. Pre-COVID extra cars were needed for Sabres games and other special events. Many people don't want to have to drive and pay for parking downtown, and the rail drops you off right near the entrance to the arena. A lot of people from Amherst use the Park and Ride from the University Station which has free parking.
The Metrorail was a great idea 40 years ago, but with the lack of extensions and the extremely slim possibility of any in the future it has limited use. The time to do something has long passed and the precarious finances of NYS and the astronomical cost of construction, make any future extensions limited to studies. The cost of parking is not that much different from the fare. As a former resident I wish they had done something when it was practical and affordable.
Here is an interesting stat: Buffalo Population 1890 - 255,664, 2019 - 255,284, Columbus Population 1890 - 88,150, 2019 -787,033. Columbus is the state capital and capitals tend to have loads of government job. Its also home to Ohio State. Columbus is growing, Buffalo is shrinking. Long term I would bet on Columbus.
I think you're confused about what thread you're in. This is about urban amenities. If anything, the fact that Buffalo has been so large for so long would mean it will have more urban amenities than a city that was a farmtown up until the past few decades.
And you can talk all you want about the uselessness of the rail system but it's still a point in Buffalo's column compared to Columbus which still has zero rail (not even Amtrack service - yikes!).
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