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This interactive map/story basically sums it up. I finically it uses Chicago as the standard-bearer for segregation lol. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...ion-us-cities/ you can see racial diversity and integration for every single place in the USA.
Also on Boston’s end-, this is worth looking at
as well as this
About this second graphic those are 2013-2017 stats. So your essentially seeing-on average- 2015 stats.
The demographic change in the Boston area from 1990 to 2020 would be a bit more dramatic. Especially South and West. I appreciate that this graph only looks at MA and not New Hampshire. Circa 2015 the Eastern MA counties that constitute Greater Boston were 68.5% white It's more than reasonable to assume it's 67% now which would be a ~20% decrease from 1990.
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where on earth on you all getting Chicago from? Seriously...?
Chicago can be extremely segregated but large swaths of the city from Loop, north and West are pretty diverse.
A lot of these cities like NOLA, Detroit (not for long), Baltimore and St Louis are just smaller versions of Chicago with less diverse areas that Chicago has.
Chicago can be extremely segregated but large swaths of the city from Loop, north and West are pretty diverse.
A lot of these cities like NOLA, Detroit (not for long), Baltimore and St Louis are just smaller versions of Chicago with less diverse areas that Chicago has.
But you do realize-objectively its one of the most segregated areas of the country? And the 2nd most segregated big city behind only Milwaukee? It is a diverse metro though. Baltimore is less segegrated and much less segregate din the suburbs. Baltimore MSA 55% white Chicago is a 53%-marginal difference. I couldn't say Chicago is better here than Bmore.
I tried o find diverse areas in Western Chicago and it was a challenge to say the least. You went from all hispanic closest to downtown, to all black, and then in suburbia, it became nearly all white.
if your talking Downtown visitors and a few near northside communities and Hyde Park I hear you-i guess that contributes a lot to the "feel"
But you do realize-objectively its one of the most segregated areas of the country? And the 2nd most segregated big city behind only Milwaukee? It is a diverse metro though. Baltimore is less segegrated and much less segregate din the suburbs. Baltimore MSA 55% white Chicago is a 53%-marginal difference. I couldn't say Chicago is better here than Bmore.
I tried o find diverse areas in Western Chicago and it was a challenge to say the least. You went from all hispanic closest to downtown, to all black, and then in suburbia, it became nearly all white.
if your talking Downtown visitors and a few near northside communities and Hyde Park I hear you-i guess that contributes a lot to the "feel"
Your problem is two things. First, you’re using stats. While integration can be statistically calculated, there’s a difference between somewhere feeling segregated and being calculated. On paper, Portland is integrated, but it’s not diverse at all, so it doesn’t feel that way.
In Chicago, the south side (the hood) is where you won’t see much integration at all, while some of the more “well off” sides of the city are much more integrated. Roaming around Franklin Park, it appears just as integrated as anywhere. Which is the case for a lot of the north side.
And third, these “stats” you pulled up only show white integration as if other races can’t integrate as well.
Your problem is two things. First, you’re using stats. While integration can be statistically calculated, there’s a difference between somewhere feeling segregated and being calculated. On paper, Portland is integrated, but it’s not diverse at all, so it doesn’t feel that way.
In Chicago, the south side (the hood) is where you won’t see much integration at all, while some of the more “well off” sides of the city are much more integrated. Roaming around Franklin Park, it appears just as integrated as anywhere. Which is the case for a lot of the north side.
And third, these “stats” you pulled up only show white integration as if other races can’t integrate as well.
Idk id your third point is true. Chicago doesn't do well in any of the stats whit or non-white-see for yourself. https://www.governing.com/gov-data/e...tro-areas.html It segregated in every way. But as you say-that doesn't speak to "feel"
Chicago looks wildly segregated. with tiny tiny exceptions.
here's one of the exceptions
This stuff here is bonkers^^^
Using stats from 10 years ago isn't exactly fair but quite honestly I haven't seen segregation like what I see in Milwaukee or Chicago anywhere else in the US. In general, Chicago has seen less demographic change than some other areas here though so I don't feel too bad in this case.
It's a few core diverse areas downtown-but the metro?? Naw.
Your problem is two things. First, you’re using stats. While integration can be statistically calculated, there’s a difference between somewhere feeling segregated and being calculated. On paper, Portland is integrated, but it’s not diverse at all, so it doesn’t feel that way.
In Chicago, the south side (the hood) is where you won’t see much integration at all, while some of the more “well off” sides of the city are much more integrated. Roaming around Franklin Park, it appears just as integrated as anywhere. Which is the case for a lot of the north side.
And third, these “stats” you pulled up only show white integration as if other races can’t integrate as well.
Nah.
I lived in Chicago for two years. Its segregated as hell. There are a couple of exceptions (like Albany Park and Hyde Park and Bronzeville is gentrifying), but overall the residential segregation is extreme.
Data nerds always claim that it's among the most segregated cities of the country. While that does feel true for large swaths of the city where you might only see black and or black and Hispanic people, that's honestly a feature of pretty much every big US city. On the flip side, there are many neighborhoods where loads of people from all ethnicities go to hang out. So in lower/Midtown Manhattan and much of Brooklyn for instance, you see a very diverse crowd of people walking around.
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