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Idk id your third point is true. Chicago doesn't do well in any of the stats whit or non-white-see for yourself. https://www.governing.com/gov-data/e...tro-areas.html It segregated in every way. But as you say-that doesn't speak to "feel"
Chicago looks wildly segregated. with tiny tiny exceptions.
here's one of the exceptions
This stuff here is bonkers^^^
Using stats from 10 years ago isn't exactly fair but quite honestly I haven't seen segregation like what I see in Milwaukee or Chicago anywhere else in the US. In general, Chicago has seen less demographic change than some other areas here though so I don't feel too bad in this case.
It's a few core diverse areas downtown-but the metro?? Naw.
You realize the other cities that are on this list right? It’s not like you’re comparing Chicago to LA. You’re comparing Chicago to Baltimore and so forth. Besides Atlanta, all of these cities are notoriously segregated. The little Chicago strides has made is much greater than the other cities here.
Data nerds always claim that it's among the most segregated cities of the country. While that does feel true for large swaths of the city where you might only see black and or black and Hispanic people, that's honestly a feature of pretty much every big US city. On the flip side, there are many neighborhoods where loads of people from all ethnicities go to hang out. So in lower/Midtown Manhattan and much of Brooklyn for instance, you see a very diverse crowd of people walking around.
Yeah. Even the most “integrated city of Vegas” has large continuous hispanic areas. People fly into Vegas, go to the strip, maybe downtown and possibly take an Uber to an event or festival somewhere else so people won’t notice It there as much.
You realize the other cities that are on this list right? It’s not like you’re comparing Chicago to LA. You’re comparing Chicago to Baltimore and so forth. Besides Atlanta, all of these cities are notoriously segregated. The little Chicago strides has made is much greater than the other cities here.
Outside of Atlanta which shouldn't be in the pool to begin with-Boston wins this by a wide margin. Both anecdotally and objectively.
I'd give an Honorable mention to Baltimore. Baltimore and Howard County have changed drastically. Chicago is just ahead of STL and MKE. Chicago is very racially diverse but not integrated.
But because it diverse and the immediate core is relatively integrated I could see it getting a vote or 2.
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Yeah. Even the most “integrated city of Vegas” has large continuous hispanic areas. People fly into Vegas, go to the strip, maybe downtown and possibly take an Uber to an event or festival somewhere else so people won’t notice It there as much.
I went all over Las Vegas-it was integrated. Probably 2nd only to Houston.
Data nerds always claim that it's among the most segregated cities of the country. While that does feel true for large swaths of the city where you might only see black and or black and Hispanic people, that's honestly a feature of pretty much every big US city. On the flip side, there are many neighborhoods where loads of people from all ethnicities go to hang out. So in lower/Midtown Manhattan and much of Brooklyn for instance, you see a very diverse crowd of people walking around.
NYC is so ethnically diverse, and its population is so mobile via public transit it doesn't feel that segregated to me, but I know in reality-it is. But in cities like NYC its not always just about racial its about ethnic-and NYC is a beautiful ethnic tapestry.
Outside of Atlanta which shouldn't be in the pool to begin with-Boston wins this by a wide margin. Both anecdotally and objectively.
I'd give an Honorable mention to Baltimore. Baltimore and Howard County has changed drastically. Chicago is just ahead of MKE. Chicago is very racially diverse but not integrated.
Yes, me and those who I was staying with felt integrated in the part of Chicago we were in. You’re not to convince other sides bwcausw you disagree
Residential segregation is undeniable and yes that can be proven objectively.
Ok, but back to the topic. The threads title is “which feels the most integrated”. Not which is statistically the most integrated. Despite the “proven” residential segregation, hopping on the L and visiting the restaurants and commercial areas, it didn’t give off this feel. Compared to other cities on here, they don’t even have this feel (other than Atlanta anda possibly Boston). Can’t say the same thing about the south side, though.
I went all over Las Vegas-it was integrated. Probably 2nd only to Houston.
I think Vegas might be more integrated than Houston. But it's the combination of large city macro-diversity + integration that puts Houston on top. If talking pure integration though Vegas and Sacramento probably both beat out Houston.
I think Atlanta does belong on this list, especially when talking metro-wide. The Black South and White North split is one of the most obvious racial splits in this country to see on a map. Of course the North is nearly entirely integrated now especially West, NW and East, NE of the city, and as blacks move further and further South places like Peachtree City will become more integrated, and hopefully as Clayton County's economic prospect's improve it's demographic change into going from a white area to a mixed area to a black area will reverse somewhat. I think what helps Atlanta a lot is that it's Hispanic and Asian population are so young to the area, that their developmental pattern shows the current developmental pattern of Americans which means newer places are more integrated.
When Atlanta was largely seen as a black-white city it wasn't that integrated. But then you could argue by that metric D.C also belongs here so a rabbit-hole could open up about how far back we are talking.
Ok, but back to the topic. The threads title is “which feels the most integrated”. Not which is statistically the most integrated. Despite the “proven” residential segregation, hopping on the L and visiting the restaurants and commercial areas, it didn’t give off this feel. Compared to other cities on here, they don’t even have this feel (other than Atlanta anda possibly Boston). Can’t say the same thing about the south side, though.
It's still very much a part of the city of Chicago and cannot be excluded, no matter how much you and others want that to be the case. Outside of the Loop, Hyde Park, and parts of Uptown, Chicago does not feel integrated at all.
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