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2am isn't an issue. I mean, 3am is ideal... But I went to college in Upstate with 13 bars/clubs side by side next to each other. You leave at 11:30pm and stay till 2. Then you grab food like Pizza, Chinese or Calzones and straddle back to your house.
I just give Boston a tough time because it's nightclub/good bar scene is bad. Like real bad. And Insomnia cookies in downtown crossing was fought by NIMBYS when they announced to stay open late.
2am isn't an issue. I mean, 3am is ideal... But I went to college in Upstate with 13 bars/clubs side by side next to each other. You leave at 11:30pm and stay till 2. Then you grab food like Pizza, Chinese or Calzones and straddle back to your house.
I just give Boston a tough time because it's nightclub/good bar scene is bad. Like real bad. And Insomnia cookies in downtown crossing was fought by NIMBYS when they announced to stay open late.
But I'm glad Encore is 4am.
A list of my frustrations with Boston and its fiefdoms ahem "neighborhood groups"
"Only in Boston can a neighborhood association named after a neighborhood that doesn’t exist strong-arm a college into opposing a taco place that wants to stay open until 2 a.m. in a major student/tourist area. Exhibit 4,320 why I left"
Also, unlike the Winter Street Tasty Burger, which scaled back its own proposed 2 a.m. closing time in the face of opposition from Midtown-Park Plaza, El Jefe is not seeking an alcohol license.
But the Midtown-Park Plaza Neighborhood Association argued that the neighborhood where their six- and seven-figure condos sit is a potential hellhole when the sun goes down and that they were only thinking of the 1,000 freshmen in the Little Building in arguing 2 a.m. was just too late, and never mind that New York Pizza on Tremont Street is open until at least 1 a.m. - and 3 a.m.
The Licensing Board last Thursday voted unanimously to deny a common victualler license for a Popeyes’ restaurant in Codman Square— effectively rejecting the fried-chicken chain’s latest bid to overcome pockets of neighborhood resistance that has blocked its opening since 2016.
The application for the license was denied “with prejudice,” a ruling that means that the restaurant chain will have to wait a year before filing another request before the board.
A day after the decision was made, board chairwoman Kathleen Joyce told the Reporter that she and other members were persuaded by testimony from residents opposed to the chain that Popeye’s has an “unhealthy menu.”
THIS IS IN THE HOOD!
"At a contentious hearing held on Zoom yesterday, mall developer Todd Finard said he first began looking for a restaurant for the mall more than 14 years ago, as his company tore down the long closed Bay State Paper mill to make way for the mall.
Finard said he tried his best to get a restaurant serving good food to open a sit-down restaurant, ideally one with outdoor seating and the like and that he spoke to "every conceivable restaurant operator I could find," even Bertucci's, the 99 and IHOP, but that none ever committed to opening there."
BECAUSE ITS IN THE HOOD
"But members of the Belnel Family Neighborhood Association, on the other side of the mall, vehemently opposed the proposal.
First, they slammed the mayor's office for failing to alert them to the idea of a Burger King until earlier this year.
But then they tore into the very idea of a Burger King, another fast-food joint in the middle of a predominantly black neighborhood, one that already struggles with obesity, diabetes and hypertension."
Marilynne Smith Quarcoo pointed to heavy traffic on River Street and said that in addition to the dietary issues, she objected to the restaurant's proposed midnight closing time - when the Burger King on Cummins Highway in Mattapan is only open until 8 p.m. Longer hours only increase the odds that the outlet will "criminalize more youth in our community, not even just youth because we know that adults are criminalized [as well]," she said.
An official at the Match school also urged the board to reject the proposed license, saying the school tries to get students to eat healthy, so the last thing they need is "another unhealthy food operation" in the neighborhood.
Resident Gladys Frias said, "We don't want kids congregating there when they should be in school or going home for the day." The nearest fast-food chain outlet to the site, a Subway shop, is 1.1 miles away.
They denied the burger King 2 am drive thru, pushing it back to midnight. Neighborhood groups are just as powerful as city councilors-if not more so in Boston. This clannishness/teritorialness is a legitimate detriment to the city. Especially its nightlife. You cant get a Popeyes open on a formerly boarded up store front. Forget about anything else. Especially in a high end area
I want to say that I get drinks right up until 2am in Boston. The energy in the building/ starts the wind down at 1:40/1:45, lights come on at 1:55, people are all out by 2:10.
funny shtuff; the end of the first episode of survivors remorse (starz) made that precise same joke.
2am isn't an issue. I mean, 3am is ideal... But I went to college in Upstate with 13 bars/clubs side by side next to each other. You leave at 11:30pm and stay till 2. Then you grab food like Pizza, Chinese or Calzones and straddle back to your house.
I just give Boston a tough time because it's nightclub/good bar scene is bad. Like real bad. And Insomnia cookies in downtown crossing was fought by NIMBYS when they announced to stay open late.
But I'm glad Encore is 4am.
It's nice to have that 3 or 4am option, even if it's only rarely that you take advantage of it.
"Only in Boston can a neighborhood association named after a neighborhood that doesn’t exist strong-arm a college into opposing a taco place that wants to stay open until 2 a.m. in a major student/tourist area. Exhibit 4,320 why I left"
Also, unlike the Winter Street Tasty Burger, which scaled back its own proposed 2 a.m. closing time in the face of opposition from Midtown-Park Plaza, El Jefe is not seeking an alcohol license.
But the Midtown-Park Plaza Neighborhood Association argued that the neighborhood where their six- and seven-figure condos sit is a potential hellhole when the sun goes down and that they were only thinking of the 1,000 freshmen in the Little Building in arguing 2 a.m. was just too late, and never mind that New York Pizza on Tremont Street is open until at least 1 a.m. - and 3 a.m.
The Licensing Board last Thursday voted unanimously to deny a common victualler license for a Popeyes’ restaurant in Codman Square— effectively rejecting the fried-chicken chain’s latest bid to overcome pockets of neighborhood resistance that has blocked its opening since 2016.
The application for the license was denied “with prejudice,” a ruling that means that the restaurant chain will have to wait a year before filing another request before the board.
A day after the decision was made, board chairwoman Kathleen Joyce told the Reporter that she and other members were persuaded by testimony from residents opposed to the chain that Popeye’s has an “unhealthy menu.”
THIS IS IN THE HOOD!
"At a contentious hearing held on Zoom yesterday, mall developer Todd Finard said he first began looking for a restaurant for the mall more than 14 years ago, as his company tore down the long closed Bay State Paper mill to make way for the mall.
Finard said he tried his best to get a restaurant serving good food to open a sit-down restaurant, ideally one with outdoor seating and the like and that he spoke to "every conceivable restaurant operator I could find," even Bertucci's, the 99 and IHOP, but that none ever committed to opening there."
BECAUSE ITS IN THE HOOD
"But members of the Belnel Family Neighborhood Association, on the other side of the mall, vehemently opposed the proposal.
First, they slammed the mayor's office for failing to alert them to the idea of a Burger King until earlier this year.
But then they tore into the very idea of a Burger King, another fast-food joint in the middle of a predominantly black neighborhood, one that already struggles with obesity, diabetes and hypertension."
Marilynne Smith Quarcoo pointed to heavy traffic on River Street and said that in addition to the dietary issues, she objected to the restaurant's proposed midnight closing time - when the Burger King on Cummins Highway in Mattapan is only open until 8 p.m. Longer hours only increase the odds that the outlet will "criminalize more youth in our community, not even just youth because we know that adults are criminalized [as well]," she said.
An official at the Match school also urged the board to reject the proposed license, saying the school tries to get students to eat healthy, so the last thing they need is "another unhealthy food operation" in the neighborhood.
Resident Gladys Frias said, "We don't want kids congregating there when they should be in school or going home for the day." The nearest fast-food chain outlet to the site, a Subway shop, is 1.1 miles away.
They denied the burger King 2 am drive thru, pushing it back to midnight. Neighborhood groups are just as powerful as city councilors-if not more so in Boston. This clannishness/teritorialness is a legitimate detriment to the city. Especially its nightlife. You cant get a Popeyes open on a formerly boarded up store front. Forget about anything else. Especially in a high end area
Holy crap, all these rejections over late night closing times? That is ridiculous about the NIMBYism, some Bostonians are like with these business applications over liquor sale ending times. I have that feeling there wouldn't have been a rejection, if such a 2am liquor sale or closing time had been applied for in Providence, Hartford, or NYC.
And what's with rejecting Popeye's? That makes no darn sense, at all. Duh it's food may not be as healthy and more fried, but then why the heck is that person complaining about the menu at Popeye's in the first place? If one doesn't like the menu at Popeye's, eat somewhere else. Last I heard, it is still a free country, and one has the right to not eat at Popeye's if he/she isn't comfortable with their menu.
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