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Old 03-26-2023, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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For a "shopping experience", I avoid malls. Personally, I have no reason to ever travel outside of Chicago for shopping. I could if I chose to, but Chicago provides everything I could ever need or want. Most people, now, shop with their phones and computers...hence, the death of many malls.
KofP is what it is because of where it is within the Philadelphia region.

It's not that the city lacks affluent neighborhoods; Center City is home to two of the three most affluent in the city, with MHIs in the six figures (and the second digit is somewhere around 5).

It's just that the serious money resides on the Main Line. And KofP is closer to it than Walnut Street is. So Walnut Street has drifted from the "luxury retail" category into the "upscale retail" one by and large (though it now contains many brands that appeal to a younger demographic, IMO a positive sign) while the luxury retailers have all flocked to KofP.

That mall, btw, is all things to all people, a rarity. Jimmy Choo and Primark can both be found there, though you have to walk for a bit to get from one to the other. It also contains a DSW (Designer Shoe Warehouse, an off-price retailer) and a Brooks Brothers (upscale but not luxury) in close proximity.

(Confession: I LOVES me some Brooks Brothers! But my income tells me I have to go to the outlet in Philadelphia Mills rather than the mainline store on Walnut Street. My explanation for Brooks Brothers' enduring popularity: "Their clothes never go out of fashion because they were never in fashion to begin with." Then the company has the nerve to stage a runway show in Milan to celebrate its 200th birthday in 2018.)
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Old 03-26-2023, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Many brands moved to SJ after all the looting in SF back in 2020
unfortunately this appears to be a national trend...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...pen-in-suburbs
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Old 03-26-2023, 02:09 PM
 
Location: New York City
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For a "shopping experience", I avoid malls. Personally, I have no reason to ever travel outside of Chicago for shopping. I could if I chose to, but Chicago provides everything I could ever need or want. Most people, now, shop with their phones and computers...hence, the death of many malls.
Downtown Chicago has awesome shopping, (even though some of it is in malls). But I also prefer main streets or urban shopping districts vs. malls. But a lot of America's high-end shopping is in malls, and those malls remain popular because of that. The average middle class mall is mostly dead these days.

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Not sure how accurate this is if the Ala Mona Center in Honolulu isn’t on the list? It’s the largest outdoor mall in the world, and one of the most successful.

From Wikipedia

“Ala Moana is consistently ranked among the most successful malls in the world. With assets totaling $5.74 billion as of January 2018, it is the most valuable shopping mall in the United States.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ala_Moana_Center
Yea, Ala Moana is ~2.4M sf and a top 5 (at least) mall for real estate value and sales volume.

It is usually some combination of Ala Moana, Sawgrass Mills, King of Prussia, Aventura, South Coast Plaza, Galleria, and a few others.
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Old 03-26-2023, 03:25 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Downtown Chicago has awesome shopping, (even though some of it is in malls). But I also prefer main streets or urban shopping districts vs. malls. But a lot of America's high-end shopping is in malls, and those malls remain popular because of that. The average middle class mall is mostly dead these days.



Yea, Ala Moana is ~2.4M sf and a top 5 (at least) mall for real estate value and sales volume.

It is usually some combination of Ala Moana, Sawgrass Mills, King of Prussia, Aventura, South Coast Plaza, Galleria, and a few others.
NYC, Chicago, SF, LA, and Miami are probably the only ones with urban, walkable, street-level luxury shopping areas.
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Old 03-26-2023, 03:45 PM
 
Location: New York City
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NYC, Chicago, SF, LA, and Miami are probably the only ones with urban, walkable, street-level luxury shopping areas.
And Boston.
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Old 03-26-2023, 04:19 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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And Boston.
right omg can't believe i forgot boston
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Old 03-26-2023, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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NYC, Chicago, SF, LA, and Miami are probably the only ones with urban, walkable, street-level luxury shopping areas.
With the news that a lot of the luxury retail started moving to San Jose, how’s San Jose’s urban retail in comparison?
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Old 03-26-2023, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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With the news that a lot of the luxury retail started moving to San Jose, how’s San Jose’s urban retail in comparison?
San Jose's top 2 high end shopping destinations are both malls: Stanford Shopping Center and Valley Fair.
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Old 03-26-2023, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Honolulu has very high end shopping on very busy Kalakaua Avenue in Wikiki
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Old 03-26-2023, 07:45 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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With the news that a lot of the luxury retail started moving to San Jose, how’s San Jose’s urban retail in comparison?
typical American mall experience...
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