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You need an interesting high end pedestrian district to shop in that has a mix of designers, your shopping experience should FEEL boutique/unique. It should feel like an elevated experience
For me that out MIA NYC SF LA MIA BOS in a different space than Houston Vegas and Dallas.
This is an instance where urban snobbery is acceptable.
You need an interesting high end pedestrian district to shop in that has a mix of designers, your shopping experience should FEEL boutique/unique. It should feel like an elevated experience
For me that out MIA NYC SF LA MIA BOS in a different space than Houston Vegas and Dallas.
This is an instance where urban snobbery is acceptable.
I actually agree with BostonMade in that desirable accessible urban districts such as those in Miami, LA and Miami (not Boston) push above their weight.
But this alone does no way in hell put Boston over Houston, Dallas. Boston certainly has the Seaport District and other urban accessible district advantage but it’s no South Beach of 5th Ave. Houston and Dallas have more shopping variety period. And minimal recognition? Calm down. River Oaks is no 5th Ave, South Beach, Beverly Hills. But nothing in Boston is either.
We’re in the Uber era, not the metro era. Boston’s seaport district is AMAZING. But let’s not get carried away and put it with the same breath of 5th Ave and South Beach. The River Oaks is just as accessible and renowned as seaport is and attracts more stores.
Atleast know about the places you’re talking about, BostonMade
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I actually agree with BostonMade in that desirable accessible urban districts such as those in Miami, LA and Miami (not Boston) push above their weight.
But this alone does no way in hell put Boston over Houston, Dallas. Boston certainly has the Seaport District and other urban accessible district advantage but it’s no South Beach of 5th Ave. Houston and Dallas have more shopping variety period. And minimal recognition? Calm down. River Oaks is no 5th Ave, South Beach, Beverly Hills. But nothing in Boston is either.
What u think of Kalakaua Avenue, Honolulu, Hawaii ?
Dallas is top heavy luxury wise with three Neiman Marcus Department stores.
The interesting aspect of Dallas retail today is how the Uptown area in the vicinity of The Crescent and Harwood District and Knox-Henderson - both of these two areas centered around McKinney Avenue - are today growing to challenge the two top traditional heavyweighs of Highland Park Village and Northpark Center.
Knox Street is sizzling!
Of course, the primary question is whether any of the Neiman Marcus stores in Dallas will close. And another important question is what will become of the luxury district downtown anchored so impressively with the original downtown Neiman Marcus Department Store, the Joule Hotel, and the Forty-Five-Ten Department Store.
So, in Dallas, I count five luxury shopping centers/districts:
1) Highland Park Village
2) Northpark Center
3) The Crescent/Harwood District
4) Knox-Henderson
5) Downtown Dallas
All of these areas are entrenched quite soundly today especially when one considers how developer investment around The Crescent is skyrocketing. Knox-Henderson is said to enjoy the best location of the five. Where Neiman Marcus meets up with the Forty-Five-Ten downtown is a match for where Neiman Marcus meets up with Northpark Center. And, of course, as long as it continues getting fed by Love Field Airport, Highland Park Village will continue being Highland Park Village.
No. It’s better to have a Neiman Marcus, a Saks Fifth Ave, and a Bloomingdales than it is to have three Neiman Marcus stores. Dallas only having Neiman Marcus out of these hurts, doesn’t help. What does help though is having the original Neiman Marcus downtown because it’s a landmark
I actually agree with BostonMade in that desirable accessible urban districts such as those in Miami, LA and Miami (not Boston) push above their weight.
But this alone does no way in hell put Boston over Houston, Dallas. Boston certainly has the Seaport District and other urban accessible district advantage but it’s no South Beach of 5th Ave. Houston and Dallas have more shopping variety period. And minimal recognition? Calm down. River Oaks is no 5th Ave, South Beach, Beverly Hills. But nothing in Boston is either.
We’re in the Uber era, not the metro era. Boston’s seaport district is AMAZING. But let’s not get carried away and put it with the same breath of 5th Ave and South Beach. The River Oaks is just as accessible and renowned as seaport is and attracts more stores.
Atleast know about the places you’re talking about, BostonMade
I just disagree all around. Seaport isn't the well-known district it's Newbury Street. I don't even like the seaport, an it's way more for dining than shopping.
We're in the Uber era in Houston yo can barely get an Uber in Boston. Your shopping experience should be woven into the urban fabric/experience. An Uber ride to a suburban shopping center? Ehhh naw. Doesn't seem awesome. Both the videos you showed confirm as much.
Newbury Street is way closer to anything in NYC or Miami than River Oaks by a wide wide margin. The real estate on Newbury is going for closer to 5th Ave or south beach than River Oaks or Highland Oark (these places just SOUND boring, like an apartment complex...)Add Boylston Street and the high-end urban malls in that area as well. It's just a glamourous experience. Newbury Street has been ‘Newbury Street’ for decades. It's the typenonplave people form or of town ask to see just to walk down it and window shop. How old is River Oaks and is it well-known in that eay? Shopping in the seaport? Idk about that.
So in just talking about the future direction once Houston and Dallas and Vegas all lose something. Idk if it put bosotn over the top or not but it's not a positive for Houston or Dallas.
By pretty much any measure you would rate Newbiry Street as a make urban shopping experience than anywhere in the Sun Belt. Perhaps there are more options in auto centric and much larger Houston but they're are many intangibles at play here as well. If were talking “destination” shopping as the question asks....
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A suburban style shopping center of minimal name recognition relatively far from the downtown core? No. That's pretty standard.
It doesn't look very suburban to me.
And what does name recognition have to do with the type of shopping? Besides River Oaks District is very new. Obviously it won't have the name recognitions of shopping District that have been in existence for decades.
Also, what did downtown have to with anything?
It's closer to the center of population than Downtown is anyway.
We are discussing shopping, not urbanity. And if downtown was so loved they would all be packed, instead of few legacy cities and small towns having active downtowns.
The downtown argument is overplayed. Relatively few care whether things are downtown or not.
People who are from legacy cities try to make it sound like the be all and end all because it is a one up for their city. But no one cares
It doesn't look very suburban to me.
And what does name recognition have to do with the type of shopping? Besides River Oaks District is very new. Obviously it won't have the name recognitions of shopping District that have been in existence for decades.
Also, what did downtown have to with anything?
It's closer to the center of population than Downtown is anyway.
We are discussing shopping, not urbanity. And if downtown was so loved they would all be packed, instead of few legacy cities and small towns having active downtowns.
The downtown argument is overplayed. Relatively few care whether things are downtown or not.
People who are from legacy cities try to make it sound like the be all and end all because it is a one up for their city. But no one cares
Maybe it’s urban snobbery but if you didn’t tell me where those videos were I would not even be thinking city
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