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Point of clarity but LA is not urban in the same way the other cities you listed are. On the contrary, its extraordinarily suburban in nature outside a few neighborhoods.
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The Boston boosting thread after thread gets nauseating as it reaches new heights each time. Take a deep breath we know Boston isn't going anywhere.
Cost of living- Chicago
Purchasing power (wages compared to COL)- DC
Traffic- Philadelphia
Pollution- Boston/DC?
Crime- SF?
Weather- LA
Quality of housing- LA? Chicago?
People- New York
Public transportation- New York
Misc livability factors- SF
Philadelphia offers the cheapest COL, and I'm assuming the highest consumption power. Chicago would be similar, but property taxes make it a clear second.
I'm thinking LA or NYC has the lowest crime p/capita, though i'm feeling a bit lazy and don't want to look (imagine saying this even 20 years afo!?). After that would likely be Boston or San Francisco?
I don't know about air quality.. Maybe DC and Boston?
Quality of housing would probably go to Chicago or DC.
Overall, considering aesthetic, "family friendliness", services and amenities, neighborhoods, nice core, nightlife, restaurant scene, and any other KPIs and metrics imaginable.. My vote would be Chicago, and it's probably not that close for me. You get more than any city on this list aside from NYC, for a fraction of the NYC price.
Cost of living: Philadelphia, Chicago
Purchasing power (wages compared to COL): DC, Chicago
Traffic: Philadelphia, Boston
Pollution: SF, Boston
Crime: New York, LA
Weather: LA, SF
Quality of housing: Chicago, DC
People: Chicago, Boston
Public transportation: New York, Chicago
Misc livability factors: No idea
Overall it looks like Chicago, with Philly and NYC following.
Also, people need to realize that affordability can't simply be calculated by one or two metrics. Saying that SF has high home prices but high salaries doesn't really mean it's affordable, just that it attracts wealthier people and pushes out low-income folks.
Did people just completely ignore 18Monticlar’s post?
LA and New York are expensive for their wages, the rest are pretty much similar.
Wage/cost of housing makes SF competitive if you have a super high income, which many do.
Looking at the whole metro, the Bay area suffers because the cheap suburbs are like 1.5 hours away by car. If you even make $100k HHI, which would prob be middle class in the Bay Area, there is nowhere to buy property.
NYC has cheaper suburbs within commuting distance. You can live on a $100k HHI in NJ and Long Island. Might be tighter than elsewhere, but doable.
Wage/cost of housing makes SF competitive if you have a super high income, which many do.
Looking at the whole metro, the Bay area suffers because the cheap suburbs are like 1.5 hours away by car. If you even make $100k HHI, which would prob be middle class in the Bay Area, there is nowhere to buy property.
NYC has cheaper suburbs within commuting distance. You can live on a $100k HHI in NJ and Long Island. Might be tighter than elsewhere, but doable.
Income or otherwise SF is not particularly liveable. It's too dense, dirty, high crime, high traffic, politically unstable, and quality of housing near employment centers is poor despite high rents.
Just looking at the photo I am like .... ok and looking closer and like chicken wire as a railing and aged wood and OMG the steps like still a aged might be creaky kind of steps. Of course I saw new windows and door so maybe see it as in process of a redo...
Not trying to knock it. Just so hard to applaud what I am seeing. All I can say is.... if I saw this photo of the back and no further comment but to say a upgrading? I would think THIS WAS A BEFORE PICTURE. I am sure the inside looks great. I would have loved to see the front also. and the REAL before and after photos.....
Just looking at the photo I am like .... ok and looking closer and like chicken wire as a railing and aged wood and OMG the steps like still a aged might be creaky kind of steps. Of course I saw new windows and door so maybe see it as in process of a redo...
Not trying to knock it. Just so hard to applaud what I am seeing. All I can say is.... if I saw this photo of the back and no further comment but to say a upgrading? I would think THIS WAS A BEFORE PICTURE. I am sure the inside looks great. I would have loved to see the front also. and the REAL before and after photos.....
I really thought it looked fantastic.
The aged wood and chicken wire is part of the rustic/industrial styling thats on trend now. Sure the stairs look creaky but I think its intentional. Many are just plain triple-deckers that look identical to the ones pre-existing. They do this well. You cant even tell these are new
I love to see these modern-looking ones all over Boston instead its mostly stuff like this
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and the REAL before and after photos.....
