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Old 01-04-2021, 03:07 PM
 
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Toronto doesn’t have more TO nodes than greater NYC because a lot of those individuals nodes listed by the OP form part of larger singular CBD core/clusters. It’s about as accurate as me listing Hudson Yards as “separate” of Midtown because it’s half a mile away.


Mexico City is the only city in NA that can be compared to NYC on an urban lvl.

you say a lot of those nodes are part of the CBD so can you list them then?
I will admit that the Yorkville-bloor cluster is merging with the central skyline but that is just occuring now, so besides yorkville which of these are part of the CBD

 
Old 01-04-2021, 05:22 PM
 
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you say a lot of those nodes are part of the CBD so can you list them then?
I will admit that the Yorkville-bloor cluster is merging with the central skyline but that is just occuring now, so besides yorkville which of these are part of the CBD
They are part of secondary CBD’s, they don’t function as their own.

Mississauga
Islington City
Humber Bay
Midtown/Deer Park
North York
Flemingdon Park
Scarborough City Center

Those are Toronto’s satellite CBD/skylines.

Outside of central Toronto, they are the only ones that contain multiple +100m buildings due to specifically being built around major arteries/highways/transit nodes. All the other ones form part of their urban form

So unless we are allowing NYC’s equivalents like West Brighton in Brooklyn, or CO-OP City in the Bronx to be counted as “skylines” in which case I can think of about 50 in greater NYC.

Again this is not taking anything away from Toronto, but NYC operates on a completely different numerical scale.

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Old 01-05-2021, 11:13 AM
 
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Updated the list with some better images and removed some dead links

Toronto

Central Skyline
https://live.staticflickr.com/1777/4...c1b4738b_k.jpg
https://i.redd.it/1h6l4bu7k2g51.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0463bd07_k.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...7f542ac9_h.jpg
https://earth.google.com/web/@43.643...76.3196407t,0r

Regent Park
https://miro.medium.com/max/2625/1*G...d1hosB_YA.jpeg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...g6I6hLrDPQk2lw
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ember_2012.jpg
https://earth.google.com/web/search/...TAIRD5V4EvGFTA

Liberty Village - King West Village
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attach...19-jpg.274167/
https://i.redd.it/e30pc2d37s361.jpg
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attach...f-jpeg.263898/

Yorkville-Bloor
https://i.ibb.co/cgnPxtb/1-stitch.jpg
https://cdn.skyrisecities.com/sites/...084-113227.png
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3ce60463_h.jpg

St. Clair (Yonge to Avenue)
https://cdn.skyrisecities.com/sites/...6017-90824.jpg
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attach...39-jpg.171207/
https://cdn.skyrisecities.com/image/AZ6sN2KdRM.jpeg
https://earth.google.com/web/@43.688...5.96940508t,0r

St. Clair and Bathurst
https://d3e1m60ptf1oym.cloudfront.ne...26_xgaplus.jpg
https://cdn.skyrisecities.com/images/RXHLp1HdF1.jpeg

Davisville and Yonge
https://earth.google.com/web/@43.715...01334578t,360r

Eglinton and Yonge
https://live.staticflickr.com/7882/3...ab0f28a6_h.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...5470d167_h.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...79b0eba8_h.jpg
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attach...21-jpg.270455/
https://earth.google.com/web/@43.708...0.26868682t,0r

North York City Centre
http://images.unoapp.com/boxdata/ass...eaderimage.jpg
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/F59CRE/aer...-st-F59CRE.jpg
https://www.123dentist.com/wp-conten...-ontario-1.jpg
https://earth.google.com/web/@43.763...4.52036809t,0r

Sheppard and Bayview
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...89f6eb18_h.jpg
https://earth.google.com/web/@43.765...9.45170642t,0r

Sheppard and Leslie
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attach...34-jpg.204183/
https://earth.google.com/web/@43.765...1.92799806t,0r

Sheppard and Don Mills
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attach...23-jpg.113994/
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attach...71-jpg.110864/
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attach...93-jpg.124806/
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attach...32-jpg.272620/
https://earth.google.com/web/@43.779...79.5273409t,0r

401 and Kennedy
https://earth.google.com/web/@43.778...1.94360755t,0r

Scarborough Town Centre
https://live.staticflickr.com/1976/4...6f48c551_b.jpg
https://www.forrec.com/wp-content/up...4-1280x688.jpg
https://shared-s3.property.ca/public...original-3.jpg
https://earth.google.com/web/@43.777...82.1015227t,0r

Victoria Park and Sheppard
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c3d7ab76_b.jpg
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attach...30-jpg.190090/

Eglinton and DVP
https://earth.google.com/web/@43.728...1.23017466t,0r

Humber Bayshore
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c9c697f2_o.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...dd758e79_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d1b611ed_h.jpg
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attach...3-jpeg.210987/
https://earth.google.com/web/@43.623...1.95953522t,0r

Etobicoke City Centre
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attach...83-jpg.207545/
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attach...f-jpeg.187705/
https://earth.google.com/web/@43.655...30933818t,360r

Highway 427
https://cdn.skyrisecities.com/images/EFw6TpUH1N.JPG
https://cdn.skyrisecities.com/images/OKnRg6LcQw.JPG
https://earth.google.com/web/@43.640...9.74724514t,0r

Dundas-Bloor and Kipling
https://cdn.skyrisecities.com/images/nPF0G5VEh0.JPG
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attach...05-jpg.222423/
https://earth.google.com/web/@43.634...9.87469715t,0r

and Outside of the City limits:

Mississauga City Centre
https://www.skyscrapercity.com/cdn-c.../6-jpg.632971/
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attach...00-jpg.234104/
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attach...4-jpeg.271693/
https://earth.google.com/web/@43.593...8.8991744t,-0r

Hurontario and Eglinton
https://earth.google.com/web/@43.605...5.66114819t,0r

Port Credit
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attach...14-jpg.231415/
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attach...74-jpg.256742/
https://earth.google.com/web/@43.543...5.20120499t,0r

Vaughan Metropolitan Centre
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attach...88-jpg.274642/
https://cdn.skyrisecities.com/sites/...86-128405.jpeg

Bramalea
https://earth.google.com/web/@43.713...1.64615428t,0r

Burlington
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attach...61-jpg.152561/
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attach...77-jpg.154719/
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attach...34-jpg.247253/
https://earth.google.com/web/@43.329...1.61299809t,0r

Bronte
https://earth.google.com/web/@43.397...7.87750741t,0r

Markham
https://cdn.skyrisecities.com/image/SbvaVsgNCk.JPG
https://cdn.skyrisecities.com/images/sliiGEjEIh.jpeg
https://earth.google.com/web/@43.853...2.56544024t,0r

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Old 01-05-2021, 11:24 AM
 
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Bloor-yorkville is not a secondary skyline, it is now and has always been considered part of the main downtown core as there is no significant density drop off from the CN Tower to yorkville.
 
Old 01-05-2021, 11:34 AM
 
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They are part of secondary CBD’s, they don’t function as their own.

Mississauga
Islington City
Humber Bay
Midtown/Deer Park
North York
Flemingdon Park
Scarborough City Center

Those are Toronto’s satellite CBD/skylines.

Outside of central Toronto, they are the only ones that contain multiple +100m buildings due to specifically being built around major arteries/highways/transit nodes. All the other ones form part of their urban form

So unless we are allowing NYC’s equivalents like West Brighton in Brooklyn, or CO-OP City in the Bronx to be counted as “skylines” in which case I can think of about 50 in greater NYC.

Again this is not taking anything away from Toronto, but NYC operates on a completely different numerical scale.
what Yonge/Eglinton, Vaughan Metro Centre which have 200m buildings, all the highrises clusters along Sheppard avenue above 100m?, liberty village, the Reagent Park Redevelopment, etc...

there is so much being built in Toronto currently that if you have not been in the city recently you will bae misinformed. Vaughan has built 3 200m buildings in the last year for example. there are countless projects underway across and around the city that I even am surprised when i go to an area in the GTA I haven't been been to in a couple of years.
 
Old 01-05-2021, 12:17 PM
 
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what Yonge/Eglinton, Vaughan Metro Centre which have 200m buildings, all the highrises clusters along Sheppard avenue above 100m?, liberty village, the Reagent Park Redevelopment, etc...

there is so much being built in Toronto currently that if you have not been in the city recently you will bae misinformed. Vaughan has built 3 200m buildings in the last year for example. there are countless projects underway across and around the city that I even am surprised when i go to an area in the GTA I haven't been been to in a couple of years.
All the buildings along Sheppard are absolutely not 100m. Do they have a lot of +100m towers, yes, but let’s not pretend suburbs of Toronto are Kowloon or Manhattan.

If we are saying Younge/Eglinton or Vaughan Metro Center count as entirely separate skylines because they have a several +100 buildings doted around them in the middle of suburbia, then we should be able to count every single high rise cluster in NYC. There are ~15 in the Bronx alone. All of which each have multiple +100m buildings in closer proximity than their Toronto counterparts.

Anyway you slice it, NYC is going to beat Toronto in high-rise numerics. It’s just the nature of the business

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Old 01-05-2021, 12:30 PM
 
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All the buildings along Sheppard are absolutely not 100m. Do they have a lot of +100m towers, yes, but let’s not pretend suburbs of Toronto are Kowloon or Manhattan.

If we are saying Younge/Eglinton or Vaughan Metro Center count as entirely separate skylines because they have a couple of +100 buildings doted around them then we should be able to count every single high rise cluster in NYC, in which case there are ~15 in the Bronx alone. All of which each have multiple +100m buildings in closer proximity than their Toronto equivalents.

Anyway you slice it, NYC is going to beat Toronto in high-rise numerics.
The aim of the thread is basically to have it recognized .... that Toronto has surpassed any other US city in any stats related to multi-nodes then NYC. Whether it is argued this splitting it as many as 60 is pushing it by counting and separating far more then should be.

So Canadians can be satisfied that no one can argue a US Metro has more. Isn't that the point of the thread hoped for and declared by the OP in the first place? I think that is clear and multiple skylines..... does not equate to numbers of the buildings that NYC still can claim anyway.....
 
Old 01-05-2021, 02:23 PM
 
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All the buildings along Sheppard are absolutely not 100m. Do they have a lot of +100m towers, yes, but let’s not pretend suburbs of Toronto are Kowloon or Manhattan.

If we are saying Younge/Eglinton or Vaughan Metro Center count as entirely separate skylines because they have a several +100 buildings doted around them in the middle of suburbia, then we should be able to count every single high rise cluster in NYC. There are ~15 in the Bronx alone. All of which each have multiple +100m buildings in closer proximity than their Toronto counterparts.

Anyway you slice it, NYC is going to beat Toronto in high-rise numerics. It’s just the nature of the business

are you really saying that Yonge and Eglinton as in the link below is not it's own skyline???

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsiiM3rU8AIqUIc.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsiiM3rUUAADtgf.jpg

PS these are not even that new as more highrises have been built in the area
 
Old 01-05-2021, 02:31 PM
 
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All the buildings along Sheppard are absolutely not 100m. Do they have a lot of +100m towers, yes, but let’s not pretend suburbs of Toronto are Kowloon or Manhattan.

If we are saying Younge/Eglinton or Vaughan Metro Center count as entirely separate skylines because they have a several +100 buildings doted around them in the middle of suburbia, then we should be able to count every single high rise cluster in NYC. There are ~15 in the Bronx alone. All of which each have multiple +100m buildings in closer proximity than their Toronto counterparts.

Anyway you slice it, NYC is going to beat Toronto in high-rise numerics. It’s just the nature of the business

Yonge and Eglinton as seen in the link below and is 9 km from the CN tower is not it's own skyline???
this is one of the most ridiculous things i have ever heard.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsiiM3rU8AIqUIc.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsiiM3rUUAADtgf.jpg
https://www.condopromo.com/wp-conten...erial-View.jpg

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Old 01-05-2021, 04:28 PM
 
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speaking of boston, i would say back bay (hancock, pru, clock tower, .. ); then, kinda' south end (h-building, fed reserve,...).
n.y.c.: manhattan then brooklynish.
atlanta: downtown then midtown.
For Atlanta it would be.

Downtown: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...wn_Skyline.jpg

Midtown: https://i.redd.it/adbehh64i1b21.jpg

Buckhead: https://cdn.buckhead.com/wp-content/...ad-Atlanta.png

Sandy Springs: https://res.cloudinary.com/simplevie...fae1ceed2e.jpg

And also maybe the Cumberland area as the Braves are putting up some skyscrapers there in the near future.
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